i am wit chu, boss....
I have exceptional hand forged which will work rings around any new stuff, the S35Vn in stainless and the 3V non-stainless the best they have offered, to date, everything else even more fragile, even if it cuts cardboard, forever.
Much of the new stuff shows owners finding their new latest greatest chips even cutting cardboard, unless polished to a mirror finish. Just look up any steel and go to Spyderco forum to see owner experiences, and see what it takes to even make the stuff work for them, and it will leave you aghast. Am referencing Spyderco as they put out near every steel possible, and heat treats are normally exactly as specified. Simply search steel name plus spyderco forum. Reeve was instrumental in the first wondersteel, S30V, and had to both go to S35Vn, and thicken blade profiles, due to blades not holding up.
Likewise, would love to put a production knife such as those made of old 0170-6 Sharon, or 0170-6C Crucible/DM-1 , either given Dan Maragni heat treat with marquench/martemper in molten salt baths as used on Cold Steel Carbon V, early Beckers and a few large Blackjacks, and same steel in the old Case and Western 1095CV blades, against any modern particle metal with blades of same profile and size, and sophisticated heat treat.
If you look at any comparison charts of powder/particle steels, you will find their origins with the company making the stuff, with comparison metals not taken to optimum performance levels in heat treat nor hardness, the charts a very stacked deck, as knife owners have discovered.
I would love a Hinderer, original topic, and as already mentioned, in 80CrV2 chrome vanadium silicon heavy duty spring steel, as blade could be lightened quite a bit over current profile. Winkler and the Navy SEALs are quite pleased with his hard use Belt Knife for whom it was developed as an issue item for Red and Blue squadrons in Afghanistan as a hard use utility knife of same purpose as the Hinderer.
But, the market would not buy it....
Complete thread:
- Purdy by yimminy tough, you betcha, fer sure... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-23, 19:47
- Purdy by yimminy tough, you betcha, fer sure... -
bj,
2018-06-23, 20:05
- sure, folk can say just carry a fixed blade.... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-23, 21:39
- the main advantage of the fixed blade.... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 10:53
- As for the owner, anyone who watches shop videos -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-23, 21:58
- Rick's target market has always been military, - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 13:49
- as for cutter, these knives are designed to -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-23, 22:26
- This particular blade style is the least cuttin'est.. - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 00:31
- In the ZT comparison, the ZT is a thinner blade, -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-23, 22:36
- for further comparisons... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 02:39
- in further ZT comparison, sort... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 10:47
- it's not only the blade thickness -
bj,
2018-06-24, 18:58
- exactly, and thick edge for toughness....thin chips/breaks, - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 20:14
- a word about thickness and wondersteels.... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-24, 17:00
- a word about thickness and wondersteels.... -
bj,
2018-06-24, 19:11
- Nope, am talking about how powdered metal -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-24, 20:11
- Nope, am talking about how powdered metal -
bj,
2018-06-24, 23:41
- BJ, you have a wonderful technical vocabulary -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-25, 00:29
- and not wishing ANY particle sintered steel shorted, -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-25, 00:46
- Interesting and entertaining discussion -
Catoosa,
2018-06-25, 10:38
- i am wit chu, boss.... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-25, 12:54
- anyhow, i hope you enjoyed the show-n-tell.... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-26, 19:28
- i am wit chu, boss.... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-25, 12:54
- Interesting and entertaining discussion -
Catoosa,
2018-06-25, 10:38
- BJ, you have a wonderful technical vocabulary -
bj,
2018-06-25, 21:54
- Look...this place was near deader than a dodo for a few days -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-26, 23:46
- and, quite frankly, considering the several times, -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-27, 00:07
- I've enjoyed reading your treatise... - pokynojoe, 2018-06-27, 08:19
- Look...this place was near deader than a dodo for a few days - bj, 2018-06-27, 19:48
- and, quite frankly, considering the several times, -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-27, 00:07
- Look...this place was near deader than a dodo for a few days -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-26, 23:46
- and not wishing ANY particle sintered steel shorted, -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-25, 00:46
- BJ, you have a wonderful technical vocabulary -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-25, 00:29
- Nope, am talking about how powdered metal -
bj,
2018-06-24, 23:41
- Nope, am talking about how powdered metal -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-24, 20:11
- a word about thickness and wondersteels.... -
bj,
2018-06-24, 19:11
- and, a word about carry... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 17:41
- a word about thrust bearings aka washers.... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-25, 16:24
- And, a word about edging/sharpening.... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-25, 17:16
- sure, folk can say just carry a fixed blade.... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-23, 21:39
- Purdy by yimminy tough, you betcha, fer sure... -
ERSisk,
2018-06-24, 11:28
- The handle is all kinda big and roomy... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-24, 13:34
- as to big and roomy.... - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-24, 14:34
- still waiting on the 10mm review....nt -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-24, 16:48
- still waiting on the 10mm review....nt -
ERSisk,
2018-06-25, 08:08
- flooring......eeek!.....nt - former hater of plastic, 2018-06-25, 12:58
- still waiting on the 10mm review....nt -
ERSisk,
2018-06-25, 08:08
- The handle is all kinda big and roomy... -
former hater of plastic,
2018-06-24, 13:34
- Purdy by yimminy tough, you betcha, fer sure... -
bj,
2018-06-23, 20:05