Put a Skinner sight on my 1894 Classic in 44 Magnum, I sure love this handy carbine, and have put several hundred rounds through it in the past year.
Dave
New Skinner Sight
by JohnKDM, Thursday, April 24, 2025, 20:56 (70 days ago) @ Dave B
They really are quite nice sights - somewhat visually reminiscent of the original Hepburn receiver sight but with improvements like windage adjustments.
That is a handy and useful setup for just about any need.
Since I don't shoot open barrel sights well I have always gravitated to receiver & tang sights. The Lyman 48s, Redfield 101 & 102, Wittek-Vaver receiver sights and Lyman 1a or MVA tangs, those I can use.
Only have a couple of Andy's Skinner sights, but they work - and are in current production. With the exception of the MVA line, the others mentioned are all out of print.
MVA
by Dave B , Alamogordo New Mexico, Thursday, April 24, 2025, 21:55 (70 days ago) @ JohnKDM
My Sharps wears an MVA front and tang sights.
They are also excellent sights.
by JohnKDM, Thursday, April 24, 2025, 22:09 (70 days ago) @ Dave B
I have MVA #113 spirit level fronts and #100 Long Range Soules on mine. Never found the slightest reason to be disappointed and the manufacturing quality is beyond reproach.
They Are!
by Dave B , Alamogordo New Mexico, Friday, April 25, 2025, 19:18 (69 days ago) @ JohnKDM
I have the 113 Spirit Globe up front, and the Long Range Soule at the rear. I'm headed to the Whittington Center in early June to take another go at the White Buffalo with Black Powder and a 525gr Postell bullet.
Dave
The buffalo!
by JohnKDM, Friday, April 25, 2025, 20:12 (69 days ago) @ Dave B
It is ADDICTING. 1123yds. With most BPCR rifles, about 3.5s flight time for the bullet to get there. The spotter calls the hit, then 3.5s for the 'clang' to return.
Took these pics in 2006. If you weren't fairly close, your bullet would land in the trees and you would receive zero feedback. Relatively clear around it now, which helps if you aren't dialed in.
I usually shoot my Shiloh 45-90 with a Lyman Postell over Swiss 1.5f. 535gr @ 1350fps. My 45-110 shows promise with a 550gr @ 1420fps, but haven't put it on the buffalo yet...
10x magnification
27x magnification
45-90, 10 shots at 100yds, no wiping.
45-110
Tom Lindner was shooting and I was spotting for him.
by JimT, Texas, Friday, April 25, 2025, 22:28 (69 days ago) @ JohnKDM
He had fired 8 or 10 shots getting into the clearing using a Model 94 Winchester .30-30 and a heavy cast bullet. Just as he was getting ready to fire again a really nice big cinnamon colored Black Bear stepped out of the trees on the left and walked to the target. I yelled "DON'T FIRE!" as soon as I saw the bear and Tom did not shoot. The bear sniffed around the buffalo and then walked on over the right and down into the gully there. After I could no longer see it I told Tom it was clear and we carried on.
That's one thing I like about Whittington ... the game that is at home there.
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Ele era velho.
Ele era corajoso.
Ele era feio.
Now that
by Dave B , Alamogordo New Mexico, Saturday, April 26, 2025, 13:37 (68 days ago) @ JimT
Is a really cool story. Only thing wrong with the Whittington Center these days is that it's in NM which is trying very hard to be Kalifornicated and gun unfriendly.
Dave
I remember hearing "Cease fire! Cease fire! Ground all
by JohnKDM, Saturday, April 26, 2025, 14:20 (68 days ago) @ JimT
weapons. Clear on the left? Clear on the right? Ok, you may go forward and chase the mule deer off the range".
Then there was the curious antelope that would run towards the bullet impacts on the 600yd rams.
Never gets old.
Beautiful Rifle!
by Dave B , Alamogordo New Mexico, Saturday, April 26, 2025, 13:42 (68 days ago) @ JohnKDM
Mine is a 34" #1 Sporter in 45 2.1". My first trip to Whittington I manage to hit the buffalo 3 times out of 30 rounds fired, a 525gr Brooks Postell over 63 grains of Goex FFg. This time around it will be 69gr of Old Eynsford under the same bullet, wiping between shots. These chronographed at 1275 with an ES of 8 and SD of 2. Using a .060 vegetable fiber wad to compress the powder. That is some really good shooting John.
Dave
Thanks! Wiping really helps and removes the need
by JohnKDM, Saturday, April 26, 2025, 14:34 (68 days ago) @ Dave B
to manage fouling with lube cookies, blow tubes, etc. I'm hard headed and keep searching for the ideal BP load that doesn't require wiping. Using compressed Swiss and a three breaths on a blow tube, I have shot all day without cleaning or issues with chambering.
There's an endless supply of variables to stir into the mix which makes the entire BPCR thing endlessly fascinating to me.
You really have your ES and SD down into a good area. That's a great help way out there where the bullets are angling in at steep angles.
FWIW...
by Hoot , Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Monday, April 28, 2025, 19:51 (66 days ago) @ Dave B
I took my Lee Enfield No. 4 out to Whittington with the closest thing I could cobble up for Mk VII ammo as that is what the sights are (supposed to be) calibrated for. My plan was to see how well the ladder markings coincided with actual yardage. I neglected to consider elevation in my cogitations. I naturally started at the 1100 setting figuring we'd be close. Nada. Moved up because I ALWAYS move in the wrong direction first to get that out of the way. Nada. Finally moved to the 1000 setting and started to see dust being kicked up. On that day, with that load, the 900 setting allowed me to strike the buffler. Total for the day: 3 for 10. I was pleased overall.
I had my Swedish Bubba Mauser out there...
by Paul , Monday, April 28, 2025, 21:09 (66 days ago) @ Hoot
several years ago. Lovely, accurate rifle, even with open sights. Figured "It's a piece of cake. Set the rear sight, fire, connect with ol' white buffler. Rinse. Repeat.
Only my spotter couldn´t. Not a trace of dust could be seen. Mic was there and I asked him about what was going on. Bless Mic, he´d rather make you think than give you answers. Good man is ol' Mic!
Me: "I've got my sights set on 1,000 meters, we can´t see any dust!"
Mic: "What ammo are you shooting?¨
Me: ¨Factory 120 grain."
Mic: "What was the rifle's original load?"
Me: "Good point!"
If I recall correctly I had to dial it back to 850 meters on the ladder sight to hit the silhouette. And then it was "Bang!" ... "Clang!" Lovely rifle, that Swede! A friend sent me some 160 grain round nose bullets for it. Some day I need to try and duplicate the original military load as close as possible and give THAT a try way out there.
I had my Swedish Bubba Mauser out there...
by Bob Hatfield , Tuesday, April 29, 2025, 17:43 (65 days ago) @ Paul
But does your Swede have the stock disc that gives the correction from 160 round nose to 139 gr. Spitzer? I guess they didn't alter the rear sight they just gave a correction mark in the disc, and you made the correction yourself?
Bob
Hmmm...
by Paul , Tuesday, April 29, 2025, 20:39 (65 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
My ignorance knows no bounds. I have the stock disk, but was not aware that it had such a correction possibility. I thought it was just about barrel condition or ??? and never paid it much mind. Next time I'm up north I'll need to give it a look and see what I can figure out.
Hmmm...
by Bob Hatfield , Wednesday, April 30, 2025, 13:05 (64 days ago) @ Paul
The disc has bore size, bore condition (0-3) and point of impact over point of aim when using M-41 ammo and it is measured in Decimeters. There was originally a yellow range decal pasted beside the disc with the "Torped Overslag" numbers. The decals have mostly been removed.
Bob