If the following link works.....

by RayLee, Friday, August 30, 2024, 07:11 (17 days ago)

The link appears to work just fine.

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Friday, August 30, 2024, 07:23 (17 days ago) @ RayLee

I'll have to come back to it later---busy morning planned.....once I finish my coffee. :-D

It works. I have a number of books by him. All in Kindle.

by JimT, Texas, Friday, August 30, 2024, 08:56 (17 days ago) @ RayLee

I downloaded them while living in Mozambique and enjoyed his stories of Africa. I have not read this one and will have to give it a read.

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Ele era velho.
Ele era corajoso.
Ele era feio.

Have always enjoyed H.R.H.'s work;

by JohnKDM, Friday, August 30, 2024, 10:11 (17 days ago) @ RayLee

Not surprising when you realize he knew men like Kipling, Conan Doyle, Burnham, and Selous.

Quatermain was supposedly based on the later two and the reality of their experiences would be hard to top, even by Quatermain...

Quatermain 1887......

by RayLee, Friday, August 30, 2024, 13:27 (17 days ago) @ JohnKDM

"There is a vestibule in my house in England. On all the four walls of this vestibule were placed pairs of horns -- about a hundred pairs altogether, all of which I had shot myself. They are beautiful specimens, as I never keep any horns which are not in every way perfect, unless it may be now and again on account of the associations connected with them. In the centre of the room, however, over the wide fireplace, there was a clear space left on which I had fixed up all my rifles. Some of them I have had for forty years, old muzzle-loaders that nobody would look at nowadays. One was an elephant gun with strips of rimpi, or green hide, lashed round the stock and locks, such as used to be owned by the Dutchmen -- a 'roer' they call it. That gun, the Boer I bought it from many years ago told me, had been used by his father at the battle of the Blood River, just after Dingaan swept into Natal and slaughtered six hundred men, women, and children, so that the Boers named the place where they died 'Weenen', or the 'Place of Weeping'; and so it is called to this day, and always will be called. And many an elephant have I shot with that old gun. She always took a handful of black powder and a three-ounce ball, and kicked like the very deuce."

Shades of Selous and Baker!

by JohnKDM, Friday, August 30, 2024, 14:06 (17 days ago) @ RayLee

Juat finished re-reading Baker's writings. Also a giant, literally and figuratively.

Selous 1881.....

by RayLee, Friday, August 30, 2024, 17:31 (17 days ago) @ JohnKDM

We were most kindly treated by Mr. William Williams, a trader, who had only the preceding year returned from a hunting and trading trip in the Matabele country. He gave me much information about Matabele Land, and showed me the largebore elephant guns which are universally used by the professional Dutch and native elephant-hunters. I eventually bought two of these very unprepossessing-looking weapons, which I will here describe. They were smooth-bore duck guns of the very commonest description, taking a round bullet of four ounces, the guns themselves weighing only 12 ½ lbs. They were made by Isaac Hollis of Birmingham, and what they must have cost originally I am afraid to say, for I bought them from Mr. Williams after they had been transported by bullock waggons over 600 miles up country from Cape Town for £6 apiece. With these two guns, and another similar but weighing 2 lbs. heavier, which I bought the following year from a Dutch hunter for £7:10s., and using nothing but the common trade powder that is sold to the Kafirs in 5 lb. bags, I killed in three seasons seventy-eight elephants, all but one of which I shot on foot.

Since then I have shot with very expensive large-bore breech-loaders and Curtis and Harvey's best powder, but I have never used or seen used a rifle which drove better than these common-made old muzzle-loaders. However, they were so light that, when loaded as they were by the hand from a leather bag of powder slung at my side (I find that an ordinary handful of powder is over twenty drachms), they kicked most frightfully, and in my case the punishment I received from these guns has affected my nerves to such an extent as to have materially influenced my shooting ever since, and I am heartily sorry that I ever had anything to do with them.

4-bore duck guns

by AaronB, Friday, August 30, 2024, 18:28 (17 days ago) @ RayLee

"...They were smooth-bore duck guns of the very commonest description, taking a round bullet of four ounces..."

So, with sixteen ounces (four of those round balls) to a pound, the guns were 4-bores. 12-pound 4-bores.

No wonder they got his attention.

Baker had a single barrel heavy that weighed 21lbs

by JohnKDM, Friday, August 30, 2024, 19:02 (17 days ago) @ AaronB

The infamous 'Baby' - though it might not have actually been a 2 bore; he references the '8oz shell' but does not call it a round ball, so it might've been a 3 or 4 bore shooting a conical.

He wrote of using it with exploding shells on elephant a few times.

Remember the story of his bearer double-charging it?

by JimT, Texas, Friday, August 30, 2024, 19:18 (17 days ago) @ JohnKDM

If I remember correctly it knocked him out.

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Ele era velho.
Ele era corajoso.
Ele era feio.

I seem to remember a broken collar bone

by JohnKDM, Friday, August 30, 2024, 19:47 (17 days ago) @ JimT

but I thought that was Selous. I'm old and afflicted with CRS, tho.

I have a great memory.

by JimT, Texas, Friday, August 30, 2024, 20:07 (17 days ago) @ JohnKDM

I just can't always recall where I put it.

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Ele era velho.
Ele era corajoso.
Ele era feio.

Selous.....

by RayLee, Friday, August 30, 2024, 21:25 (17 days ago) @ JohnKDM

This time the gun went off—it was a 4-bore elephant gun, loaded twice over, and the powder thrown in each time by a Kafir with his hands—and I went off too! I was lifted clean from the ground, and turning round in the air, fell with my face in the sand, whilst the gun was carried yards away over my shoulder. At first I was almost stunned with the shock, and I soon found that I could not lift my right arm. Besides this, I was covered with blood, which spurted from a deep wound under the right cheek-bone, caused by the stock of the gun as it flew upwards from the violence of the recoil. The stock itself —though it had been bound round, as are all elephant guns, with the inside skin of an elephant's ear put on green, which when dry holds it as firmly as iron—was shattered to pieces, and the only wonder was that the barrel did not burst. Whether the two bullets hit the elephant or not I cannot say; but I think they must have done so, for he only went a few yards after I fired, and then stood still, raising his trunk every now and then, and dashing water tinged with blood over his chest. I went cautiously up to within forty yards or so of him, and sat down. Though I could not hold my arm out, I could raise my forearm, so as to get hold of the trigger; but the shock had so told on me, that I found I could not keep the sight within a yard of the right place.

Ah ... my memory was deficient ...

by JimT, Texas, Friday, August 30, 2024, 22:02 (17 days ago) @ RayLee

I remember reading the story ... thought in was Baker ...

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Ele era velho.
Ele era corajoso.
Ele era feio.

Selous.....

by RayLee, Friday, August 30, 2024, 22:23 (17 days ago) @ RayLee

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