Thank you fordyce and philo.....

by RayLee, Sunday, September 03, 2023, 19:35 (382 days ago)
edited by RayLee, Sunday, September 03, 2023, 19:50

Er, pardon.....misters beals and remington.....

and all the angelos, antonios, guidos and giovannis at armo san marcos, armi san paolo, pietta & uberti.....

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Odd that the middle one, a lyman labeled armi san paolo that codes to 1975 is marked "new model army" but has the flush forcing cone of the original beals' first run and not the "fouling scraper" protrusion of the actual "new model".

The one on the right is a lyman labeled uberti that codes to 1972 and is marked "new model navy". It has twice the forcing cone protrusion of the one to its left but the foto perspective does not show it. The modern piettas & ubertis have 3/8ths of an inch of barrel threads showing through the frames.

Odder still.....

by RayLee, Sunday, September 03, 2023, 20:28 (382 days ago) @ RayLee

Uberti "kit" that I bought for $250 from a fellow forumite. I never bothered to finish it or even sand the grips but shot it as it was. I took it to a local "authority/expert" in hopes to trade-up to something else. The man got all nervous and asked permission to disassemble it. After a quarter of an hour of sighing and gibbering unintelligibly to himself, he offered me $800 cash for it ! He adamantly insisted it was unique in that it had a feinwerkbau manufactured barrel that was both gain twisted and gradually choked down to approximately .440" at the muzzle.

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Hiding behind it is just a plain pietta.....

Mr Beals (1806-1870) is important enough...

by A K Church, Monday, September 04, 2023, 18:32 (381 days ago) @ RayLee
edited by A K Church, Tuesday, September 05, 2023, 04:49

his grave is listed at Find A Grave. Tall obelisk looking thing.

He may have been involved in perfecting details of the Jenks breechloading carbine when Remington bought out the contract for this gun from Ames. He was for sure working for Ames at the time.

He also of a certainty designed the Whitney Navy, sort of forgotten today, but much purchased by the US in the Civil War.

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