Form 4473 Part 2
by Creeker 
, Hardwoods, Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 05:17 (1923 days ago)
The reason for the question is an online poll by our local newspaper. If you read this in your paper what would your reaction be????
Do you believe Congress should pass a bill that creates a background check for any and all commercial sales of guns?
Cast your digital ballot at register-herald.com Join the conversation at facebook.com/RegisterHerald/
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by Paul 
, Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 06:57 (1923 days ago) @ Creeker
The NICS system is a background check. Every sale through an FFL dealer has to call in to the NICS system prior to finalizing the sale. They call in the info on the person and usually it goes through. If someone has the same name and is a felon - you'll likely have to wait for them to sort it out and make sure it's not you before you can buy the gun. So they are wanting to know if there should be an existing law duplicated. Weird. OK. Ignorant. Folks have no clue about the multitudinous, duplicate, repetitive and ignored laws there already are on the books. Nor do they realize how often the government doesn't use the existing laws against existing felons, preferring to make new laws and new felons.
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Such a sale would eliminate all private sales of guns. The transfers would have to go through a FFL dealer.
The "universal" background check being spoken of by the progressives, would also force gifts and inherited guns to also go through a FFL dealer. It would totaly eliminate the private transfer of firearms.
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I believe Oregon has already done that.
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Washington requires all private party transactions to go through an FFL, but still allows you to give a firearm to an immediate relative, mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter. No paperwork necessary for that, but if grandad wants to give a grandkid a gun, it is an FFL transaction.
Makes perfect sense, no?
Otony
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by Slow Hand , Indiana, Thursday, August 22, 2019, 03:34 (1921 days ago) @ Otony
But without compete registration, they don’t know who has what or when they got it, and we all know where complete registration goes....
Simple.
by Paul , Thursday, August 22, 2019, 07:47 (1921 days ago) @ Otony
Grandpa hands the gun to his son and says, "This is yours - as long as you immediately give it to YOUR son." 
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by CJM , Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 21:02 (1922 days ago) @ Creeker
I believe the reason the 1968 gun bill didn't have the local private sales requirement is that it's not Constitutional for the Feds to control local sales - the Commerce Clause allows lots of Federal oversight but not of local commerce. Not sure how today's Supreme Court would rule on this issue but I don't believe the Constitution gives the Federal govt that power.
My reaction would be that the editors are idiots
by Miles , CIVITATES AMERICAE, Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 11:28 (1922 days ago) @ Creeker
Like Paul posted.
Every 'commercial sale' of a firearm already has had a background check of one manner or another performed since the Brady Law was passed back in the '90s.
The NICS check system made it possible for the check to be done very quickly.
Some states authorized those people with Concealed Carry permits that had a federal agency check as part of the issue process to by pass the NICS check since they already had basically the same thing dome.
The vast majority of 'news' people are ignoramuses of the 1st rank.
My reaction would be that the editors are idiots
by Creeker , Hardwoods, Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 17:22 (1921 days ago) @ Miles
I'm in that discussion with them now.
They said is could have been worded better.
"it could have been worded better" Pfffffffppt
by Miles , CIVITATES AMERICAE, Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 21:05 (1921 days ago) @ Creeker
I'm rolling.
Ya Think Mister Editor?
My reaction would be that the editors are idiots
by bj , Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 20:07 (1921 days ago) @ Miles
I've been told that Texas performs continuous background checking on every person holding a license. IOW as soon as a report of improper activity was posted to a person't record officers would be at his door to collect his license.
nice to know that Texas DPS has such a surfeit
by Miles , CIVITATES AMERICAE, Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 21:14 (1921 days ago) @ bj
of Officers, if that's the case, that they can spend the man hours necessary to continually search all the records as well as patrol and run service calls and investigate crimes.