Hey, Byron; a 5.56 question for you

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 07:37 (2285 days ago)

I remember awhile back you had wrote about a good 77 gr 5.56 load. I just picked up 1000 Prvi Partisan 77gr HPBT bullets to try out. I believe that everything I’d shoot them out of is at least a 1/8 twist, and a couple are 1:7. I picked up an 8lb jug of WC844 and another of 2230, but I have several other powders to use based on you’re results.

Thanks for any advice!

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Hey, Byron; a 5.56 question for you

by bj @, Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 20:48 (2285 days ago) @ Slow Hand

Varget and Reloader15 are the powders most used by highpower shooters with 80 grain bullets.

M262 Mod1

by Byron, Thursday, June 21, 2018, 15:54 (2284 days ago) @ Slow Hand

This is one of two 5.56mm rounds that I have standardized for my AR15 shooting. The other is a M193 spec reload using a bulk 55 gr soft point and CFE223 powder.

My M262 Mod1 clone load is mixed but uniformed 5.56mm brass that is trimmed to length and full length sized. The bullet that I have settled on is the Nosler 77gr Custom Competition with cannelure seated to the cannelure and taper crimped. Powder is Varget and primer is Remington Small Rifle Bench Rest Primers #7-1/2. Powder charge as required to throw 2750fps from a high quality 16" chrome bore 5.56mm chamber barrel. Ammunition is loaded on a Dillon 550 using Lee dies.

This ammunition works great in all my standard chamber/barrel dimensions rifles however in my DCM Service rifle and my JP Precision Rifle it will blow primers maybe 10-20 of the time due to the tight match chambers and barrels.

It is extremely accurate and maintains a standard deviation in the single digits.

It kills whitetails like they were hit by lighting.

With the exception of the M855a1 lead free round it is in my opinion probably the optimum 5.56mm load for both long range as well as terminal ballistics.

Byron

M262 Mod1

by bj @, Thursday, June 21, 2018, 20:20 (2284 days ago) @ Byron

I have noticed that some rifles built for service rifle competition have shorter throats, i.e. the opposite of long freebore, and this probably increases pressure a bit. I've read that some primers will blow easier than others but I don't know where Rem fits in that regards. Also if you have a rifle that blows primers, this might etch the end of the firing pin and make it more prone to blowing primers.

Byron, if you were to get his hands on some M855A1

by cubrock, Friday, June 22, 2018, 08:06 (2283 days ago) @ Byron

would you use it, or stick with your aforementioned reloads?

LOL YOUR hands... (nm)

by cubrock, Friday, June 22, 2018, 08:07 (2283 days ago) @ cubrock

nm

Sure...

by Byron, Friday, June 22, 2018, 15:42 (2283 days ago) @ cubrock

I would love to have a pallet of M855a1 out in the barn for shooting around the farm.

It is a new generation of uber high performance ammunition that is kicking the envelope of effectiveness up more than a notch. Another example is the XM2010 .300 Win Mag round that extends the effective range from 800 to over 1200 meters.

The big variable here is the greatly increased chamber pressure of this new ammunition as well as new bullet technology. Generally it is accepted that the upper limit of brass cased small arms ammo is around 50,000 psi while this new stuff runs around 63,000-65,000 psi. Thats a big difference.

Word is the 5.56mm M855a1 will not only out penetrate M80 7.62mm on cold rolled steel armor plate and is also very close to instant death on finely boned thin skinned creatures under 250 lbs even out of SBRs.

Weapons do wear out faster...

Byron

PS

by Byron, Saturday, June 23, 2018, 17:03 (2282 days ago) @ Byron

I have shot 1000s of the Prvi Partisan 77gr HPBT and while they clearly are not of the quality of Match Kings or Custom Competition they are plenty good enough for most of the girls that we go with.

Byron

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