does anyone know if the new Marlin 1894 rifles that were"re-designed" using CAD/CAM fixed the "Marlin Jam" problem where the sharp edge on the lever wears the bottom of the lifter, eventually the lifter doesn't lift enough to block the second cartridge from the magazine tube and the rifle jams? The 44 Magnum models have been out for a year but I haven't heard if this design problem was fixed in the re-design or not.
All the internals are made of gold!
by cas, Thursday, February 08, 2018, 06:29 (2481 days ago) @ CJM
At least judging by the MSRP.
And cast gold, at that!!! nt
by former hater of plastic, Thursday, February 08, 2018, 11:36 (2481 days ago) @ cas
nt
Soory to sell them short...MIM, too!!! nt
by former hater of plastic, Thursday, February 08, 2018, 12:06 (2481 days ago) @ former hater of plastic
nt
boy, do i hate this microtext update to phone nt
by former hater of plastic, Thursday, February 08, 2018, 12:08 (2481 days ago) @ former hater of plastic
nt
Wear is what caused the problem. Many talked about it but
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Thursday, February 08, 2018, 20:23 (2481 days ago) @ CJM
of those I've had in .44 and .357 I haven't had the problem
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Sincerely,
Hobie
Remington In Trouble...
by ~JM~, Thursday, February 08, 2018, 22:56 (2481 days ago) @ CJM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-remingtonoutdoor-bankruptcy-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-...
Didn't Remington purchase Marlin?
Yep, and current owners did same to them.
by former hater of plastic, Friday, February 09, 2018, 01:23 (2481 days ago) @ ~JM~
brought in expensive efficiency experts to treat labor as cell concept interchangeable work unit non-humans in a 6 Simga driven profit maximizing machine putting out the cheapest possible product. Whether it actually worked only of minor concern. And folk have gone to other brands more likely to work out of the box, Mossberg, Henry, etc., strong gun market or weak.
Six Sigma is a management pyramid scheme. Top tier gets rich
by ERSisk , Friday, February 09, 2018, 03:23 (2481 days ago) @ former hater of plastic
everyone else gets the "hind Teet".
At least you can spell it without typos. nt
by former hater of plastic, Friday, February 09, 2018, 08:38 (2480 days ago) @ ERSisk
nt
Marlin has re-introduced 1894's in 357
by jgt, Friday, February 09, 2018, 08:51 (2480 days ago) @ CJM
I can only tell you about my one experience. My sister-in-law needed a rifle. I thought a lever action .357 would fill her need. I believed a JM stamped Marlin would be just the ticket. Finding a JM marked Marlin proved to be unrealistic in my area at that time. I wasn't willing to wait the time it would take to find one had I been shopping for myself. A member on the Marlin board had bought one from Gander Mountain. It was suppose to be one of Remington's guns they had taken to SHOT and other outdoor shows. I think they had six at the time and he bought one. He claimed it was good enough for shooting. I took a chance and ordered one. When it came, I checked to see if the front sight was on straight and it was. The wood and wood finish was not very desirable and the wood to metal fit sucked in places like the tang but it was not chipped or split anywhere. It was a little proud in places but still for a hunting/shooting gun not any worse than guns from other companies I had seen in the past. The screws were not buggered and the metal was not scratched or marred. The blue was between a mat finish and nice quality. In other word not something to write home about. The trigger went about eight and a half pounds on my trigger pull gage and the action was gritty. There were no hitches in the action, just gritty feeling. I had been warned to take it apart and give it a good cleaning and maybe a fluff and buff. When I undertook that task I got sliced and diced by the razor sharp edges I encountered on the receiver and other parts. My first task was cleaning. I got a lot of metal dust and filings out of it along with some fairly stubborn grease. The big surprise was how nicely the action had been machined. It was actually much nicer than my 1979 model 1894 in 44 magnum. I did the fluff and buff along with using a deburring tool to dull the phantom razors. Then I polished the trigger and sear surfaces to get a better fit to the surfaces. It took three tries before I got the trigger pull weight down to a little over five pounds. I decided to stop there and let the parts wear in before attempting more. The action smoothed up nicely and with only a light lube inside and judicious application of grease to the friction surfaces the little rifle was surprisingly smooth. Next was to sight it in. I took it to a ranch belonging to an old gun buddy of mine because I knew he did own a .357 JM Marlin and I could get his opinion about it. Using Seller & Bellot .357 magnum jacked hollow points I measure off fifty yards and set up the target. Using his yard gate as a rest for my arm I shot the rifle. I had to drift the front sight over a tap or two and raze the rear elevator a notch, but that was it. The rifle shot a very nice group. Even my buddy was impressed and he is not easy to impress. So for the use this gun was intended, I called it "good enough". My sister-in-law would not know the difference if it was trouble free, shot where she aimed, and went bang when she pulled the trigger. She was happy, so all was well. I doubt she has shot it as much as one of us would, but she would bring it to me if she had any problems with it and it has been several years now. That is my one and only experience with the Remlin/Marlington .357 model 1894 rifles. All I can add is buyer be ware and look it over. Clean it good. Watch those sharp edges. And shoot it right away, so you can send it back if you have any problems. Doubt you will, but you never know now days. Good luck.
Glad to hear of good experiences,
by former hater of plastic, Friday, February 09, 2018, 12:43 (2480 days ago) @ jgt
but part of the experience for many of us is pride in ownership of having a finely crafted thing. And Marlin, today, has gone the way of S&W in my mind, with cast/MIM.
There are those who say we have no choice, and to just suck it up because that is all there is. Personally, I would disagree, as I believe folk should vote with dollars and force makers to turn out good stuff rather than cheaper facsimilies, which DOES happen from time to time. However, folk HAVE voted with their dollars and continue to support things going the way they are.
I will not buy a Remlin, nor a Winku, and DO look high and low to buy a gun made more as the actual gun desired, rather than a shadow of former self, and if too costly, I simply do without, and blame only self for not buying when more widely available.
Marlin, as for on-topic, stayed in the running after the post-64 Winchester changes, and came to dominate, for one reason only....they stayed true to design, and I ended up even going Marlin because of that. How fondly I recall the Marlin ads of only a decade or so back, showing all the forged and machined components in every rifle. Much of which is cast or MIM today, and may as well buy a far nicer looking Winku if one wants that sort of manufacture.
Once I read of post-buy-out Marlin workers going from a single assembler putting together a rifle, and then all benches/stools removed, and them forced to stand at a table with 6 or whatever other people for entire shift and not even allowed a bathroom break without arranging a relief worker as partial rifles passed down line, supervisors forced to discipline/fire workers not meeting quotas, and promises of plant staying open, and then virtual no notice shutdown, pack and move, and workers offered only fast food wages if they relocated. This all goes back to voting with dollars. I will not support such an outfit, and not as if it is the same rifle still being preserved, because it is not. It only LOOKS like one, and only if you squint. This is what happens when money has been flowing in unprecedented amounts into the firearms industry and raiding/profit taking investor groups move in, and my feeling is we should do everything we can to make sure those folk end up homeless and on the street.
Good report? .....?nt
by Creeker , Hardwoods, Monday, February 19, 2018, 09:57 (2470 days ago) @ jgt
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