Very interesting. USMC looking to buy a bunch more M27s.
'Bout Time They back to the N frame!
by Rob Leahy 
, Prescott, Arizona, Monday, February 13, 2017, 15:53 (2842 days ago) @ mcassill
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'Bout Time They back to the N frame!
That was my first thought.The M28 Highway Patrolman would be cheaper. 
Very interesting. After researching this a bit, it IS
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Monday, February 13, 2017, 17:37 (2842 days ago) @ mcassill
interesting. I wonder if that is a spurring magpul to make their compact 60 round drums?
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Very interesting. After researching this a bit, it IS
The Marines haven't bought the drums; they've been having the designated automatic rifleman carry a big stack of 30-rounders.
Yep but one article said they were still looking at 50 to 90
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Monday, February 13, 2017, 21:41 (2842 days ago) @ mcassill
round compact magazine"
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Still, if the gun is lighter, they will have an easier time
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 08:42 (2841 days ago) @ mcassill
in the beginning of 83, our "Automatic rifleman" were the guys with 7 30 rounders. the rest of hus had 7 20 rounders. By the end of the year, we all had 30 rounders and carried as many as we could. and we have one M60 for every 3 to 4 men, having our own M151A1 Gun jeeps... No Assistant gunners, spare barrels got assigned to random others...along with M203s...
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Very interesting. USMC looking to buy a bunch more M27s.
Um... it's STILL a 5.56 mm isn't it?
a groundhog gun by another name.
Groundhogs...
I thought everyone already knew of the change from "Green tip" to lead free m855a1 ammunition.
It out penetrates M80 7.62mm on steel plate and AARs indicate that even in short barreled carbines is an excellent performer equal to 7.62mm in the ability to make things stop moving real fast.
In addition, it is match grade accuracy round and is spec'd to hold 8" at 600 yards out of a service rifle. There has never been a mil spec service round that shoots that straight.
This is a revolutionary and evolutionary development in 5.56mm ammunition and is probably as good as the 5.56mm will ever get or needs to get.
The only downside to the m855a1 is that it operates at very high pressure and causes increased wear to the weapons. Big deal. Barrels and bolts are cheap.
I am around Army and USMC Infantry officers everyday and the general position is that the M4 is fine and the m855a1 is spectacular and those that complain about the m16/5.56mm the loudest just don't know what they are talking about.
Cheers
Groundhogs...
by Sarge , Central Misery, Saturday, February 18, 2017, 08:56 (2837 days ago) @ Byron
edited by Sarge, Saturday, February 18, 2017, 09:49
A good objective review of the M855 vs A1 variant can be found at-
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2014/5/21/testing-the-army-s-m855a1-standard-...
Telling for me is the statement "A Special Operations Command test saw cracks appear on locking lugs and bolts at the cam pin holes on average at 6,000 rounds, but with as few as 3,000 rounds of “intense” full-automatic firing. The solution may be to find a means to count the number of rounds a rifle has fired."
Barrels and bolts can be replaced; but breakdowns will occur in combat, at those low round counts.
As most of us have known forever, it's counter-productive to overload a small cartridge trying to make it into a big one.
Groundhogs...
It' is like driving a 2 L supercharged car. You have to drive everywhere at higher RPMs to produce the power. I would much rather drive something with a big block and gobs of low end torque.
Ain't no replacement for displacement.
by Hoot , Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Sunday, February 19, 2017, 11:08 (2836 days ago) @ Jared
That's why I keep my FAL mags...
loaded with Federal Mk 319 SOST. Anything you do to make 5.56 deadlier works even better with bigger calibers.
Or you put twin turbos on the V8 and have a real screamer
