94 Trapper in 30-30 nice little gun lousy sights... Need
by Rob Leahy 
, Prescott, Arizona, Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 19:11 (2966 days ago)
some recommendations for replacement irons; looking at XS sights...
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Of the Troops & For the Troops
My default choice would be the Williams FP, then a STEEL
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 19:14 (2966 days ago) @ Rob Leahy
Lyman or Redfield and then the XS. I would want the range of adjustment the older receiver sights have. That's me. The XS is a solid sight.
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Sincerely,
Hobie
I put a Williams FP on mine and am happy with it
I tried a Skinner peep replacing the factory open rear sight, but that didn't help the problem of a very short sight radius, so I went with a Williams receiver sight. I'm very happy with it... 
Hey Rob, "lousy sights"?
John Wayne got by with them "lousy sights" just fine. Lucas McCain did too. 
;-) I am pretty sure the Duke had a brass bead, the Rifleman
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Friday, October 14, 2016, 08:28 (2965 days ago) @ Drago
didn't use know sights... (One of my favorite shows as a kid, my first cowboy hat was just like Mark's) These are just round steel front and a poor interpretation of semi buck horns shiny blue steel they don't present a good sight picture for me...years ago a friend had the same carbine, a trapper , in 44 mag... I had an 8 3/8s 629 with white outline and red ramp fronts... (No my favorite set up) We were both surprised that 100 pace and beyond shots were easier with the S&W. Superior irons and half the barrel length...
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Of the Troops & For the Troops
HEY ROB! McCAIN DID USE HIS SIGHTS...
... occasionally.
94 Trapper in 30-30 nice little gun lousy sights... Need
by Sarge , Central Misery, Thursday, October 13, 2016, 20:32 (2965 days ago) @ Rob Leahy
Go flat. They are especially easy for old pistoleros to use. http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/improve-the-oem-sights-on-your-rossipuma-model-92/
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Thanks all! Good answers. I neglected to mention this wasn't
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Friday, October 14, 2016, 08:40 (2964 days ago) @ Sarge
d&Td by the factory for a rear peep, but , that's what gunsmiths are for... It does have the angle eject mount holes, but I won't scope it...
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Of the Troops & For the Troops
Thanks all! Good answers. I neglected to mention this wasn't
The XS and Skinner mount into those rear holes on top of the receiver for a scope base. Williams has a 5 D or FP that uses those holes as well.
My AE trapper 45 colt currently has XS sights, and my home made 30-30 trapper is wearing a steel Redfield. It is really too big for the rifle and am looking to replace it with something smaller down the road. The XS really isn't my favorite sight I have it on a few rifles and don't do my best work with them. I think it is more a function of the white line front than anything else.
Personally I like a serrated black front post with a mid size apreature. It is the best of both worlds for me. skinner makes a nice front sight that resembles a Clements when looking at it,
Remove the white line and blacken the sight for a good post.
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Friday, October 14, 2016, 18:31 (2964 days ago) @ Jared
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Sincerely,
Hobie
Remove the white line and blacken the sight for a good post.
I have tried it and the smooth. Face reflects too much light. Nothing to my eyes comes close to a post front cut 75-80 degrees with serrations.
Ok, so cutting the face of the sight might not be a cost
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Sunday, October 16, 2016, 21:53 (2962 days ago) @ Jared
effective solution...
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Sincerely,
Hobie
Ok, so cutting the face of the sight might not be a cost
I think can be done, but since someone makes them already it would probably be easier to just buy a new one for a few dollars.
My Bowen 500 has the white line sights and while they are great for lower light I have never been able to shoot my best with them. I talked to Alan about milling down the face of th eblade and serriating it, but never had it done.
A trick courtesy of Tony Boggus.
by Hoot , Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Monday, October 17, 2016, 11:43 (2961 days ago) @ Jared
Thread files will cut serrations pretty quickly. You just need to pick a pitch and slowly cut straight across the sight face keeping repeated cuts in the same grooves. Maybe practice on the edge of a piece of scrap would be useful.
This popped up on Amazon but I expect Brownells or any industrial tool supply will have them as well. https://www.amazon.com/Nicholson-Thread-Restoring-Square-Metric/dp/B000LEGYPK/ref=pd_si...
I only selected this as an example. In fact, I didn't even note the thread pitch so I couldn't say if it was too fine or too coarse.
A trick courtesy of Tony Boggus.
That is a great idea. I bought a file for serrating years ago but it is too fine for what I wanted. I need to pick up something more suitable.
A trick courtesy of Tony Boggus.
by Sarge , Central Misery, Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 16:04 (2960 days ago) @ Jared
how many LPI is your checkering file Jared? I've got a 40 LPI checkering file on the way.
A trick courtesy of Tony Boggus.
I am thinking it is a 40 LPI. I got it from Midway or Brownells at least 10 years ago. My biggest issue is it doesn't cut the serrations deep enough to be effective. I have attempted to cut the notches a little deeper with a different file but that didn't work for me.
I really think a 30 or Mayberry even a 20 would be better for a front sight. My Baer has what is probably a 20 LPI from the sight. It is very aggressive but sure is visible. .
Gotcha...
by Sarge , Central Misery, Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 12:29 (2959 days ago) @ Jared
I nearly ordered a 50 but thought the better of it. Mine will be used primarily for handgun sights unless the Missus wants the front sight done on her 16" Golden Boy.
Swiss Grobet #0 serrating file, 30 LPI works for me.
You still need to cut them to depth to point up.
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Thanks John
by Sarge , Central Misery, Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 18:07 (2959 days ago) @ John K.
nt
I've been making do with what I've got all my life, so it
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 20:01 (2960 days ago) @ Jared
is my default thought. Yeah, a new one is probably better.
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Sincerely,
Hobie
Rob, I have a Skinner on my .45 Colt '94 AE.
by Hoot , Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Friday, October 14, 2016, 09:50 (2964 days ago) @ Rob Leahy
Just a little fussy to adjust but rock-solid when done. Miss Melodie used it to great effect in 2015 to end the career of the "were-pig".
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Tried to take a picture but my camera batteries died. It looks just like this one => http://www.skinnersights.com/winchester_26.html
I did end up with a taller front with an 'ivory' bead and also opted for the rear sight blank which is tapped to hold an extra aperture or to hold the one removed to allow for a 'ghost ring' type shot.
We've been quite pleased with this set-up.
94 Trapper in 30-30 nice little gun lousy sights... Need
by Creeker , Hardwoods, Saturday, October 15, 2016, 09:32 (2963 days ago) @ Rob Leahy
I only replaced my rear sight with a Lyman 66 & couldn't be happier.
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