Ruger Bisley Conversion - remind me next time I am not a

by stonewalrus, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 16:20 (3050 days ago)

Gunsmith... Have it all back together, cylinder indexes and all BUT the hammer won't stay back at full cock. Any idea what I have screwed up? I bought a Ruger Blackhawk gunsmithing manual but not real clear what I could have done wrong. Doesn't have as many pictures/ diagrams as I would have liked.

Ruger Bisley Conversion - remind me next time I am not a

by Bob Hatfield @, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 16:39 (3050 days ago) @ stonewalrus

Try taking out the mainspring and its strut and see if the hammer will stay cocked in the interim before the experts chime in.

Bob

tried that. No luck. First time I assembled it, hammer and

by stonewalrus, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 17:14 (3050 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
edited by stonewalrus, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 17:19

Trigger were functioning fine - until I put in the cylinder. It only locked up as the hammer fell and hammer wouldn't stay back. I guess things are getting better. Didn't realize a Single action could be so much trouble.

Check the pawl.

by Caz, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 17:26 (3050 days ago) @ stonewalrus

nm

Check the pawl.

by uncowboy, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 17:58 (3050 days ago) @ Caz

I think your hammer strut is installed backwards causing a loading problem.

Tried that - still same problem. I have it according to the

by stonewalrus, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 20:13 (3050 days ago) @ uncowboy

Way the diagrams show.

That appears to be ok

by stonewalrus, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 20:15 (3050 days ago) @ Caz

If I get brave enough I will take it all apart and start over again.

That appears to be ok

by Fowler, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 20:38 (3050 days ago) @ stonewalrus

Bet you could YouTube it.

I know how to do the job but not well enough to diagnose it from your description.

Been googling - don't think I have the trigger spring right

by stonewalrus, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 20:53 (3050 days ago) @ Fowler

Found some good pictures too.

Been googling - don't think I have the trigger spring right

by Jared, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 23:06 (3050 days ago) @ stonewalrus

If it will stay cocked without the cylinder , and won't when you install the cylinder the bottom foot on the pawl is too long. You need to file it down until the timing is right.

It sounds like the hammer travel is stopped because the pawl is still trying to turn the cylinder and the bolt is engaged.

That is what I meant...check the pawl.

by Caz, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 23:30 (3050 days ago) @ Jared

;-)

That is what I meant...check the pawl.

by Jared, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 23:42 (3050 days ago) @ Caz

I know I was just explaining it more.

:-)

And I appreciate that! Thanks!

by Caz, Thursday, July 21, 2016, 10:36 (3050 days ago) @ Jared

;-) ;-)

Now it won't stay cocked with or without the cylinder

by stonewalrus, Thursday, July 21, 2016, 18:00 (3049 days ago) @ Jared

Nm

I wish you were closer Tom.

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Friday, July 22, 2016, 08:55 (3049 days ago) @ stonewalrus

Bet we'd be able to figure this out... Without it in hand, I'm having a tough time. SA's are pretty straightforward. I'd be thinking of pulling out all the springs and seeing how the working bits interact.

With my "expertise" I should never have taken apart

by stonewalrus, Friday, July 22, 2016, 19:29 (3048 days ago) @ Hoot

A revolver that was working perfectly fine before I tried to go Bisley with it.

That loading gate has to be installed correctly as well.

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Wednesday, July 20, 2016, 21:53 (3050 days ago) @ stonewalrus

I felt like I was all thumbs the last one. Need to put my Clements hammer in the .41 still...

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Sincerely,

Hobie

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