Maplewood Bullets Lee 452-255-RF

by Sarge ⌂ @, Central Misery, Friday, November 06, 2015, 20:50 (3244 days ago)

I'm not a caster. I've wanted to give the Lee 452-255-RF a try for awhile. But it's not a commonly available as a bulk cast bullet. Considerable scouring of Al Gore's internet eventually revealed Maplewood Bullets of Brattleboro VT http://maplewoodbullets.com/ A recent sour deal with another caster insured I'd ask questions THIS time. Maplewood's proprietor, Ed Heathwaite, was more than accommodating. I ordered 500 of his 452-255-RF's and requested he size them 0.454” to match my revolver's cylinder throats. We settled on a BHN hardness of 11, practically bubble gum to folks who think you ought to be able to start a fire by hitting cast bullets together. But there was method to this madness... I was looking to duplicate the original ballistics and I wanted the bullet soft enough to 'bump up' to throat diameter at those velocities.

Ed shipped the bullets the same day he received the money order. Yes, money order. Ed is an old-school guy and you mail him a money order; he mails you bullets. Ed's bullets aren't as cheap as some; but then again, he offers hard-to find bullets cast from classic, proven moulds. Mine were $77.00 for 500, shipped. They are worth every dime. The sizing was right on and they shoot great.

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I started with the basic 7.1 grain dose of HP38, but was not getting the velocity I wanted or quite the accuracy I expected. With a fresh pound of Hodgdon's Universal on hand, I cracked open my tattered old copy of Metallic Cartridge Reloading, published just after Universal was introduced. In the 45 Colt section I found a single load listed. 8.5 grains of Universal was said to propel 240-250 grain jacketed bullets to 856 fps, producing 14,200 Copper Units of Pressure in the process. Substuting a lead bullet should do nothing but improve those numbers.

The 8.5 grain Universal load did 864 fps from my 4 1/2" Bounty Hunter and (shooting from improvised rests) immediately showed cluster of about 2” at 25 yards, right on top of the front sight. My old 16” Puma lever action did 1113 fps with it and kept three of them in 3 inches, at 100. Some casual plinking at 50 yards showed the load holds its own at distance. Looking for the outer limts of its usefulness, I backed off to 85-90 yards and fired six from the revolver, offhand, at the 11x17 plate. I'll eat the high one; I could cover the rest with my hand.

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To say I am pleased with the results of this effort would be an understatement.

Maplewood Bullets Lee 452-255-RF

by Creeker @, Hardwoods, Friday, November 06, 2015, 22:11 (3244 days ago) @ Sarge

Sounds like a good guy to do business with & that bullet is a pretty good one from reports.

Maplewood Bullets Lee 452-255-RF

by rob @, Friday, November 06, 2015, 22:47 (3244 days ago) @ Sarge

That's not a bad price at all in my book. I have that mold and when I had a .45 Colt I liked it a lot. The only problem I had with it is I use Glen's bullet lube formula of moly grease and beeswax and its soft so it's hard to keep it in those tiny grooves...but if you do, it works very well. I eventually settled on 9 grains Unique and the RCBS 270SAA. That load was so good I've thought about buying another .45 Colt just to shoot it because I've never found a .44 Mag load that shoots as well...but I'm still working on it:)

Maplewood Bullets Lee 452-255-RF

by Sarge ⌂ @, Central Misery, Friday, November 06, 2015, 23:30 (3244 days ago) @ Sarge

The grease grooves are awful small, I durn near wiped the lube outta that bullet just cleaning it up for the photo. I suspect those small disturbances to the bullet's bearing surface may be one of the reasons it shoots well. I am getting just the slightest hint of leading in the revolver, but it never seems to go beyond that regardless if 6 or 60 shots are fired.

I suspect this bullet would be OK just rolled in Alox, but I'll leave that to you folks with more experience in those matters.

Ed is a peach.

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Monday, November 09, 2015, 11:57 (3241 days ago) @ Sarge

I have bought a few hundred of these and those over the last few years. Ed has always been very helpful when I come up with some hare-brained question and has offered up some very useful advice.

My latest query had to do with a 190gr .358 bullet that I wanted to procure sans lube for a paper patching experiment (which has not yet been done).

He's a good fella to deal with.

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