Super Blackhawk Replacement
by Dave B 
, Alamogordo New Mexico, Friday, April 17, 2015, 22:22 (3512 days ago)
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Cracked the barrel on my Super Blackhawk in 3 places, Ruger could not repair, so for a decent price of $416 delivered and transfer fee, this is what will carry on my 44 Magnum experiences. Not nearly as smooth and creep free as the Super, but it doesn't have over 4K rounds through it. One gripe I have is that Ruger doesn't take any care to ensure the stocks fit the grip frame, will be working these down in a couple spots until I can afford some better stocks. Lucky me I have almost 100 rounds loaded up ready to shoot tomorrow. Looking forward to making memories with my new hunting implement.
Dave
Super Blackhawk Replacement
by Cherokee , Medina, Ohio, Saturday, April 18, 2015, 07:10 (3512 days ago) @ Dave B
Well, sorry to hear about the demise of the SBH...and Ruger could not fix it !
Enjoy your new journey...
could not fix it???
by bj , Saturday, April 18, 2015, 20:14 (3511 days ago) @ Dave B
I don't understand why they could not fix it. Does this mean they could not install a new barrel? Gunsmiths that do Ruger conversions, such as Dave Clements, probably have boxes full of take-off barrels that they could put on it.
OTOH that Bisley is a very good replacement. The only thing wrong with the Bisely is that it secretly wants to be a Linebaugh conversion.
Threads were damaged.
by Dave B , Alamogordo New Mexico, Saturday, April 18, 2015, 20:44 (3511 days ago) @ bj
Ran 100 rounds through it today, shoots every bit as accurate as the old Super did, has one chamber that is slightly rougher than the others, and I am going to have to work on the grips, gave me a blister as there is a high spot where the grip material is noticeably higher than the grip frame. I shot 70 rounds of 429421s loaded over H110, HS6, and Unique, and 30 rounds of the Lee 310 RNFPGC over H110, did some experimenting with seating depth, seemed to shoot better with the bullet seated to the top crimp groove. I also ran 50 rounds through my SS 5 1/2" Bisley 45, 30 rounds of 340gr LBT bullets over H110, and 20 rounds of the 45-270SAA (289grs from my alloy) over 9grs of Unique and 13grs of HS6. Fired 25 rounds through the FA 454, all midrange stuff, the 289s over HS6 and the 340 LBTs over HS6, tore up an old 12" stump out at 150 yards, sailed a few of the 310gr Lee bullets through it as well. Ran a few 45/70 rounds through the Marlin 1895GS and Ruger #1, and finished off by shooting the 350gr cast over IMR4198 in the 375 Ruger.
Addendum
I am disappointed with the stocks Ruger is using, the wood to metal fit is awful.
RE- stocks... lowest bidding sub-contractor.
by Hobie 
, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Saturday, April 18, 2015, 22:25 (3511 days ago) @ Dave B
It is one thing that really bothers me about the Single-Seven. The plastic NM FT grips have a much better fit on those guns.
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Sincerely,
Hobie
The stocks have been lacking lately.
by Hoot , Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Sunday, April 19, 2015, 10:12 (3510 days ago) @ Hobie
Or maybe even longer than 'lately'. It's sad compared to some of the older pistols at Chez Hoot.
Also sad was a Vaquero which followed me home wearing Eagle buffler horn stocks. The vendor had two of them...sort of a Mutt 'n Jeff 'matched pair', what with one being 7-1/2" and the other a 4-5/8". The stocks on the long tube had more color but the shorter barrel appealed to me more and he allowed me to swap the panels. Neither pair fit particularly well but I'm pretty sure I can fill and redrill the locator holes and get mine to match up much better. I would have thought the aftermarket companies would take more care.
Stocks and how they fit
Ruger's lack of effort in fitting stocks (especially on the Bisley) is nothing new. However, in my opinion, the problem was always worse on the stainless versions. It did seem to me that the grip frames were not as standard of a size as the stocks. Also, I recall the first blued versions on the 44 special flattops. The fit and finish were spot on. It contributed to my decision to buy one. After the initial release, the fit and finish were good only on the case by case basis.
Mark
Mark hits the nail on the head as this corresponds to
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Sunday, April 19, 2015, 13:27 (3510 days ago) @ Mark
my experience.
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Sincerely,
Hobie
Mine experience differs
by Dave B , Alamogordo New Mexico, Sunday, April 19, 2015, 14:26 (3510 days ago) @ Mark
Of course I only have on example, my AccuSport 5 1/2" Bisley has stocks that fit perfectly, my Flattop 45 was from the first run of 500 with the 5 1/2" barrel, and those fit almost as bad as these blued Bisley stocks, I was looking at them closely last night during the cleanup, and I saw how really bad it was, almost like they weren't for the gun, tried the stocks from my stainless, and they didn't even come close to matching up the index pin hole. Then I noticed the index pin on the 44 Bisley was bigger on one side, and was considerably longer on one side, looks like they tried to press it, and stopped when it started to expand. All in all I am still happy with it, as it is very accurate, but I do hate to see quality slide. I will say the my Freedom Arms has forever ruined me in the quality department, someday hope to own a Model 83 in 44 Magnum. Funny thing happened last night while cleaning, I decided to check fit the spare stocks I purchased after my hunting faux pas with the FA 454, while the seller may have advertised them as being for a model 83, they most certainly are not, they are at least a 1/4" too short, and do not match the grip frame profile, that was $126 wasted, thinking they may be for a model 97 as they are definitely Freedom Arms stocks.
Dave
The FT .45s stocks (the ivory colored plastic) did NOT
by Hobie , Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Sunday, April 19, 2015, 17:52 (3510 days ago) @ Dave B
fit anywhere nearly as well as the .44 FTs. The plastic stocks on the two .44 FTs are as near to perfect fit as one might hope. I got some factory replacement "gunfighter" grips for the .45 FT (I was hoping they were NOT gunfighter but hey they aren't that UGLY white plastic gunfighter grip) and they fit the .45 FT MUCH better.
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Sincerely,
Hobie
Or "It's beyond our mechanical abilities....
by rob , Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 19:22 (3508 days ago) @ bj
I could have saved that gun easily and I'm just a shade tree gun mechanic. Being a real (auto) mechanic with common sense...and having to solve real mechanical problems, though is a big help. A real gunsmith would have removed the cylinder, milled off the barrel extension inside the cylinder window and unscrewed it or cut the old barrel off, mill it flush with the frame and screw it through into the cylinder window. If none of that would do it would be easy to drill the barrel out until almost flush with the threads and it would have come out in three pieces. Where there is a will there is a way.
I like that Ruger
by Creeker , Hardwoods, Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 18:22 (3508 days ago) @ Dave B
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