Call me cynical...

by Paul ⌂, Wednesday, December 31, 2014, 11:55 (3556 days ago)

but the probabilities of "finding true love" in the arms of someone a third your age from a different culture, language and religion are somewhere between nil and none.

Call me cynical...

by Amerileiro, SW MO, Wednesday, December 31, 2014, 12:14 (3556 days ago) @ Paul

Uhm....I think you are on to something there, Paul.

Call me cynical...

by stonecoldrc, Wednesday, December 31, 2014, 12:29 (3555 days ago) @ Paul

Perhaps not true love, but true lust seems to be possible.

She would at least have true love...

by mcassill, Wednesday, December 31, 2014, 14:05 (3555 days ago) @ Paul

for your bank account and ability to get her a green card...

Call me cynical...

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Wednesday, December 31, 2014, 22:30 (3555 days ago) @ Paul

I don't know what instigated the post, but yeah, you're right. Don't ask me how I know...

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Sincerely,

Hobie

Call me cynical...

by Paul ⌂, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 00:30 (3555 days ago) @ Hobie

Seeing one more case of some guy trying to find companionship while not recognizing that he's no longer in his 20's and has nothing in common with the object of his lust - not even the lust in all probability. We see it a lot around here, with guys coming down to try to find some femininity - something that seems to be quite lacking up north thanks to the ultra-nazi-feminists and their campaign to eradicate anything masculine or truly feminine.

Like someone observed, the Good Lord gave man a brain and a penis - but only enough blood to run one of them at a time. With the growth of the pornography market, the eradication of femininity and the lack of a cultural compass to guide men towards true masculinity it is no wonder that we see so many of these cases down here.

Aw Geeze...

by Brian A, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 10:01 (3555 days ago) @ Paul

You mean my hope of a sweet, young mail order bride to love and care for me in my old age is just a pipe dream?

Just my 2 cents.......

by Otony, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 11:26 (3555 days ago) @ Paul

.........I met my wife at church in 1999. She was (is!) a sweet young thing, 18 years my junior. I befriended her, but things never went further than that due to life circumstances. A few years later we both realized we had joined the same mutual admiration club, but I was hesitant due to our age differences. I pointed out that my parents (now deceased) would need assistance soon, and that I was beholden to be the family member to help them.

Her reply was that I was stupid for worrying about the age difference, as that situation was common in Europe. She is from Russia, and my parents were from Sicily, so I knew that much was true. BTW, that wasn't the last time she called me stupid for valid reasons.

Second bit of news from her was that we are supposed to care for our parents when they age, not wharehouse them as is so common in the States. She considered it her duty and responsibility to help my parents as though they were her own. She also pointed out that I was likely to need care as I aged, and that would be her job as well.

Well, we married in 2004, when I was 49 and she was 31. We have a pair of beautiful children, ages 6 and 9. We live in completely different circumstances then what we had when we met, now own 4 acres, have a substantial orchard, grow a significant portion of out fruit and vegetables, chickens, rabbits, dogs, cats, tractors, you name it.

Is it all due to her? No, it is all due to us, with a capital U and a capital S. We motivate each other to reach our goals together. We are a team, and what we have I would have NEVER had on my own. Some maybe, but not all. And beyond the material success is the spiritual companionship. That is immeasurable, and far more valuable. I have a friend....for life.

Now, I would never suggest that because it happened for me, it will happen for everyone. Nor would I expect the situation you've described to work. But there seemed to be an under current of disapproval for any such relationship, and that simply won't do.

Fact is, even in church it was unlikely that I would have found an American girl willing to help care for my dementia ridden parents. Or one interested in a relatively poor, aging mailman. Could it have happened? Sure! But the attitudes of females from non-Amercan cultures makes it far more probable. I can certainly see an older gent dreaming of a younger mate, or an older woman for that matter! How healthy the situation might be is one thing, but don't discount the idea all together.

And the lust thing? Well, suffice to say that we have chosen to not have any more children due to my age (and hers now as well, come to think of it)...........not my ability. My youngest will graduate from high school when I'm 71 years of age. God Willing, I will be there to see it. I didn't think it prudent to push that envelope, as I'm certain my daughter's "grandpa" being present will be embarrassment enough to serve all our family, but I assure you that not only is the spirit willing, the flesh is far from weak. I am vain enough to hope that won't change to terribly much in the future.

Otony

Just my 2 cents.......

by Paul ⌂, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 12:21 (3555 days ago) @ Otony

Different circumstances, my dear friend, different circumstances. My observation has more to do with the rampant "sex tourism" that besets those nations commonly believed to belong to a "third world" (never have seen but one world myself). Far too many guys have seen too many porn films and have the wrong attitude towards marriage and life in general. The ability to form a lasting relationship with a person much the junior of one's self is a matter of individual circumstances and personality traits and much, much more. What I see down here far too often is the idea that sex and money are the basis for a strong marriage, which belief is delusional and misinformed if not worse.

I maintain that when someone goes to a different country and culture and language and religion to "find true love" without understanding the culture, language, customs, religion, etc of the expected source of marital bliss - that person is delusional at best. That does not come near describing yourself and your lovely bride, both of whom share much more in values and general outlook on life than the people to whom I was referring.

+1

by Byron, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 13:13 (3554 days ago) @ Otony

My wife is much younger than me as well.

Young women are a very good thing.

Byron

You can keep true love...

by Charles, Friday, January 02, 2015, 17:13 (3553 days ago) @ Paul

if it ever existed in the first place. Friendship, compatibility and mutual interests are far more important and not likely to be found in a much younger person from another culture.

You can keep true love...

by Paul ⌂, Friday, January 02, 2015, 17:22 (3553 days ago) @ Charles

True love never dies. On the other hand, true lust is all too often mistaken for "true love" - and leads to blindness towards the object of that lust. Just heard of yet another story such as that which inspired my original post. Fellow in mourning goes to Panama to forget his woes. Finds a cute young thing. "Falls in love" with her and ends up in her home town "going to get married". Oh, and she speaketh not his language and he speaketh but little of hers. He falls ill and is rushed to the hospital. She appears two days later magnanimously asking for his credit cards so as to "pay the hotel and restaurant bill". Upon denial of her request by the hotel staff she then exits stage left, never to be heard from again. He's left holding the bag, wondering where his "true love" got off to.

If you're old, bald, paunchy, out of shape (not counting round), do not dance nor speak the only language known by the belle who is a third of your age (ie -young enough to be your granddaughter, maybe even great-granddaughter) - the odds of her finding you attractive as anything other than a means of providing a life of luxury with no real work involved are not very good.

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