I havn't been a real fan of lights or laser onguns for EDC

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Monday, July 21, 2014, 17:10 (3783 days ago)
edited by Rob Leahy, Monday, July 21, 2014, 17:48

Until Now: Crimson Trace Light Guard
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Of the Troops & For the Troops

Excellent!

by stonewalrus, Monday, July 21, 2014, 17:42 (3783 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

Nm

I havn't been a real fan of lights or laser onguns for EDC

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Monday, July 21, 2014, 19:36 (3783 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

A buddy has one on an FN auto loader. I got
To play with it while I made a holster
For it. It was very streamlined and super bright for its size. My G19 has a TLR-3 on it and I'm surprised how easily it carries. The 442 in my pocket right now has a set
Of CT laser grips on it as well. They hold zero and are bright enough to see on overcast days.

I pretty much won't carry a gun without a CT laser on it...

by Boge Quinn, Monday, July 21, 2014, 19:44 (3783 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

...except when I carry a SA sixgun. Just haven't been able to take it quite that far.

I bought a single six 32H&R that had laser grips on it ! i

by cable, Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 13:12 (3782 days ago) @ Boge Quinn

took them off, but still have them somewhere if someone wants to try it on a single action !:-D

Send em to Boge!

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 13:40 (3782 days ago) @ cable

;-)

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Of the Troops & For the Troops

he he ! they would look right nice on one of his customs !!

by cable, Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 18:03 (3782 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

:-D

Who made that nifty holster?

by Catoosa, Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 10:10 (3783 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

Looks like a Galco, or mebbe a Hunter.....:-D

I think it's Uncle Mikes...

by rob @, Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 21:42 (3782 days ago) @ Catoosa

They are moving toward leather and I think they call it the Outside-In or some such;)

Are you sure it's even a holster?

by cas, Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 07:33 (3782 days ago) @ rob

I think it may just be the top of an old boot.
Which is a really good idea, because carrying a gun in your boot is just way too far to bend over to get it. But sticking the boot in your pants cuts the bending in half.

Are you sure it's even a holster?

by Catoosa, Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 21:48 (3781 days ago) @ cas

Well, they make womens' purses out of old boot tops, so maybe it would work for a holster too.....;-)

Make sure to wear sturdy gloves if you face off....

by Byron, Thursday, July 24, 2014, 13:37 (3780 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

With someone in the dark.

Lights are bullet magnets.

The mind focuses on the light and the gun and you will get shot in the hands alot, at least that is what we have observed when shooting at each other in low light with airsoft.

While I have heard that training "less lethal" is not "realistic" you have to admit that it has "some" value and that one that does train "less lethal" will have "some" advantage over someone who has not.

The JRTC at Ft. Polk has trained hundreds of thousands of grunts to a level where they are efficient and deadly Marines and soldiers and nobody has been killed (with the exception of confusing a SAW mag of 5.56 ball for one of blanks). Most SWAT and HRT teams train with simunition systems to similarly deadly results and no one is killed during this training.

To those that say training "less lethal" is "playing at gunfighting" and leads to taking unrealistic risks that one would not take with the real deal, one must simply observe that they are cheating and not paying attention to the purpose of the training.

Next time someone in class turns into a Simunition Samurai, make them take off all protective gear with the exception of safety glasses. No shirt, no gloves, no mask, no vest, no balaclava, no nothing. Then get back to school and see how comfortable they are at soaking up all those little old paint balls at close range. Nice.

The light should be as far away from your body as your arms with reach.

The laser is very effective at intimidating one you have the drop on. They tell me that real bad guys settle right down when the beam floats around on their chest.

Byron

I havn't been a real fan of lights or laser onguns for EDC

by sjcollins ⌂ @, SW Missouri, Monday, July 28, 2014, 09:25 (3777 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

I like lasers on the small pocket guns, since most of them have pretty useless sights to begin with. On bigger guns, I can take them or leave them.

As far as a light, I'm pretty adamant that you should have one if at all possible. Target identification is a priority, especially in the house. If you have others living with you, being able to identify who is about to get shot before you shoot them is huge. I'd much rather take a bullet than shoot one of my family members.

Gun mounted lights are important, since there's really no effective way to run a long gun without one, and I have yet to meet the person who can shoot better with one hand on the handgun than two. I tend to run a handheld and a handgun mounted light, so I'm not pointing the muzzle at everything I shine the light on. If one goes out, I still have the other. If I see something fishy, I can put both hands on the handgun and be more a more effective shooter. I run my Glocks with a Surefire X300 weaponlight all the time, even for carry.

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