22 lever guns : trying to list the ones i know or have

by cable, Saturday, November 09, 2013, 13:20 (4037 days ago)

if any one can think of others please chime in !!

i suppose the first was the model 1873 winchester in 22 short and the rare 22 long, i have never managed to snag one of these.

after that i have at least an example of the more common ones:

marlin 1891 sideloader 22 lr
marlin 1897 22lr
marlin 39 22lr
marlin 56 22lr
marlin 57 22lr
marlin 57M 22 mag
Mossberg 402 "palomino" 22 lr
remington 76 22lr
ithaca 49R 22 lr [ american made, and poorly at that]
ithaca 72 22 lr [ german] [ was also sold by iver johnson as their wagonmaster ]
ithaca 72 22mag
winchester 250 22lr
winchester 255 22 mag
marlin 1894M 22 mag
Browning Bl22 22 lr
winchester 94 22 lr
winchester 94 22 mag
ruger 96/22
Uberti 1873 SRC 22 mag
Rossi/Taurus 62 22 lr

i dont have a henry, though it is i believe the descendant of the ithaca 72 made in west germany; dont have the ruger 96/22 M;
i dont have any others of the uberti winchester replicas, nor ubertis current 'silver boy'

and the nearly non-existent colt colteer for which someone found this:

this was offered at greg martin auctions in a major sale in 2007, the picture is no longer available on the archive:

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=1290&aid=6700&lid=2171260

*colt Colteer Experimental/prototype Lever Action Rifle


Lot #485 (Sale Order: 485 of 828)


Sold for: $650.00

Item Description:
Serial no. XP8, .22 long rifle caliber, x19-inch barrel; blued finish with anodyzed aluminum frame and cocking lever. Varnished semipistol grip stock with composition rampant colt logo buttplate.
Condition: Fine; excepting In need of repair, including mechanism and attachment of buttstock.
Notes: Made in the 1960s for short period; see R.L. Wilson, THE BOOK OF COLT FIREARMS for example.
Estimate: 800 - 1200

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I suppose that colt had shown a picture of the prototype and it was in an ad that i saw..

i distinctly remember the semiautos including the short one with the saddle ring, but being more interested in the gun with the lever, which as i recall, looked otherwise identical.

wish i had seen this auction, i might have grabbed it.


Item Description:
Serial no. XP8, .22 long rifle caliber, x19-inch barrel; blued finish with anodyzed aluminum frame and cocking lever. Varnished semipistol grip stock with composition rampant colt logo buttplate.
Condition: Fine; excepting In need of repair, including mechanism and attachment of buttstock.
Notes: Made in the 1960s for short period; see R.L. Wilson, THE BOOK OF COLT FIREARMS for example.
Estimate: 800 - 1200

anyone have that book by R.L. Wilson ??

by cable, Saturday, November 09, 2013, 14:15 (4037 days ago) @ cable

R.L. Wilson, THE BOOK OF COLT FIREARMS

to check for a picture of the colt 22 lever gun??

anyone have that book by R.L. Wilson ??

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 09:21 (4036 days ago) @ cable

"During the early '60s a lever-action .22 was dreamed up, but progressed no further than the prototype stage."

Page 268 of 'Colt an American legend'

I only saw one pic of the auto loader, a short stagecoach model but no pics of a lever gun.

thank you !! now i can rest ! i suspect they announced

by cable, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 13:14 (4036 days ago) @ Slow Hand

it, but never made it. like Taurus does all the time:-P

So what the heck lever action am I thinking of...

by cas, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 20:26 (4036 days ago) @ cable

…with the wide, possibly alloy lever? A Winchester?

if it was funky shaped, maybe the mossberg 402 palomino?

by cable, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 20:43 (4036 days ago) @ cas

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Could be.

by cas, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 20:52 (4036 days ago) @ cable

Perhaps there was a Colteer on the rack at the same time and that's where the ideas got crossed.

i still beleive i saw pictures [ or drawings?] of an ad

by cable, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 21:04 (4036 days ago) @ cas

for the colteer lever gun

if it was funky shaped, maybe the mossberg 402 palomino?

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Monday, November 11, 2013, 04:02 (4036 days ago) @ cable

I so wanted a lever action .22 as my first gun. My brother got a cheap Savage semi auto, but I wanted something cooler. Of course, a Marlin or Winchester was too expensive so dad found a Palomino for me. It must have had a real dinged up chamber because upon our first trip to shoot it, it was basically a single shot. You had to pry each round out of the chamber after firing it! It's a shame, because it was pretty accurate. Dad took it to a friend who had a gunsmith but he was unaesthetic to make it run reliably so we ended up selling it off. I have no recollection of what it's replacement was, which is a shame. Every boy should have his first gun for years and years. I've seen a couple of the Mossbergs at shows over the years and wod like to buy another one, just never had the spare cash at the right time.

it is a shame, Elmer Keith had one and wrote about it

by cable, Monday, November 11, 2013, 09:04 (4035 days ago) @ Slow Hand

i saw that article somewhere; here is a short blurb about them:

" The Mossberg Palomino was a rare departure for O.F. Mossberg & Sons. Renowned for their bolt action repeaters, semi-automatics and pump shotguns, the Palomino was Mossberg’s first and only venture in the lever action rimfire market. Introduced in 1959, the main feature of the Palomino was that it was hammerless with a fully enclosed breech. This was designed as a safety feature in case of a burst cartridge or gas leak. The lever action is extremely smooth and fast. The 400 Palomino was a 24” barrel rifle while the 402 Palomino was the carbine version introduced in 1960. Famed writer, firearms enthusiast and innovator Elmer Keith described the Palomino as, “about the best lever action I have ever used”, and “quite accurate as well”.
These were made before serial numbers were required in 1968. The rifling is called AC-KRO-GRUV, and this thing is a little nail driver. Steel plate shooters take note, this would be a great gun for competition. These are becoming rare to find, especially in this kind of condition. If you like neat lever action rimfire rifles, this would make a great addition to your collection. A really nifty little rifle...."

they can be found for reasonable prices and often like new condition.

This post made me curious to see if I have the book or not

by AkRay, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 18:27 (4036 days ago) @ Slow Hand

I went to check and it's right there with my other firearms related books. For some reason I thought it must be some obscure reference book that I wouldn't have any reason to own. I have it and I looked at page 268, and there it is.

what does it show??

by cable, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 19:17 (4036 days ago) @ AkRay

:-)

Erma werk made the Ithica and sold it under their own name

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 11:19 (4036 days ago) @ cable

as well as probably others??? before Henry started. I have an Erma .22lr and really enjoy it despite the pot metal frame.

--
Of the Troops & For the Troops

Erma werk made the Ithica ...yes, and i found an iver

by cable, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 13:16 (4036 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

johnson, still new in the box with papers, made by erma and imported as the wagon master. they are slick operating little lever guns.

I recently forund a old greener action Ithaca single shot

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 16:11 (4036 days ago) @ cable
edited by Rob Leahy, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 16:39

that looks like a lever gun....

--
Of the Troops & For the Troops

those were pretty nice, a little clunky made but worked well

by cable, Sunday, November 10, 2013, 19:17 (4036 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

:-)

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