Federal Fushion .223 for whitetail

by Wildcat, Flint Hills of Kansas, Monday, October 07, 2013, 09:20 (4009 days ago)

Anybody tried this ammunition on whitetail. We have a special antlerless hunt next weekend. I'm going to be working cattle and really won't have much time to hunt but will have an Ar in my pickup (always have an AR in the truck). Picked up a couple of boxes of it and sighted it in yesterday. Very accurate ammo out of my Rock River Coyote Carbine. This is the first year KS has okayed .22 caliber for deer. I'm not sold on the idea, but thought if I keep shots at 100 yards or closer, it might be okay.

Federal Fushion .223 for whitetail

by Byron, Monday, October 07, 2013, 11:00 (4009 days ago) @ Wildcat
edited by Byron, Monday, October 07, 2013, 12:49

Everyone knows that you can't kill deer with a .223. Just ask Paul.


The little buck was shot in the neck with a 55 grain bulk soft point and dropped so hard that it bounced. The 2 does were shot square in the chest with a M262mod1 spec reload of a 77 gr Hornady OPMBT over a case full of Varget. Both did the predictable thing.

Deer are easy to kill and most anything will do the job if you hit them right.

Byron

The most experienced Texas Whitetail hunter I know

by MR, Monday, October 07, 2013, 12:44 (4009 days ago) @ Byron

tell me that a .223 puts them down much quicker than a 30-30. Those are South Texas whitetails (Sonora) area. So they are smaller than northern whitetail. That's out of Mini 14 cut to 14 inches with a flash hider permanently welded to make it legal length.

cut off mini-14?

by D.Sikes @, Ozarks, Monday, October 07, 2013, 17:57 (4008 days ago) @ MR

that's one thing I don't understand....

cut 2 inches off a 16 inch barrel to 14 inches and then weld on a 2 inch flash suppressor to make it legal lenght... WTH... what advantage does that give you?... same length as before but reduced muzzle velocity of a shorter barrel... a "tactical" advantage over game animals?... the only reason that I'd cut a barrel back in length is for handling leverage... like my 16 inch Trapper levergun has over the standard carbine length... but to cut and then add an "extension" to make it legal length again?... don't make sense to me...

if ya'll can, please explain this to me?

He did it for looks, but the side effect was

by MR, Monday, October 07, 2013, 19:12 (4008 days ago) @ D.Sikes

it went from over inch and half groups to around .6 inch.
I measured the group my self.

It's THE way to accurize it...

by rob @, Monday, October 07, 2013, 22:29 (4008 days ago) @ D.Sikes

Shorter barrels are stiffer and less barrel time equals less barrel whip. The flash hider is neutral as the bullet is free sailing once it enters same.

also certain Mini 14's are known for a

by MR, Tuesday, October 08, 2013, 08:49 (4008 days ago) @ rob

inconsistency in the barrels at the last few inches near the muzzle. Sometimes whacking off the last inch or so will cure one that won't shoot.

This guy went through the 100 hunting rifle mark in the late 90's. Just for the record. His most used whitetail rifle isn't the Mini 14. But it does get the call for Turkeys and sometimes for meat does. But he has tried most everything on them. He likes his Remington Custom Shop Kevlar Stocked Model 7 in 7mm/08. The only guy I know that has killed a deer with a Bren 10.

Been shooting Nosler 60g Paritions for years

by SKgrips, Monday, October 07, 2013, 15:38 (4008 days ago) @ Wildcat

They work great, my son has been dropping whitetail with it for years. Shot his first one at 8 years old, now at 18 its still his go to gun

Next time I kill an animal with a rifle....

by rob @, Monday, October 07, 2013, 22:34 (4008 days ago) @ Wildcat

It will be with my AR. So far I'm very impressed with the Barnes Vortex load in mine. Shoots under an inch and being basically a 55g X bullet I suspect it will do fine on deer with neck or heart shots and pigs through the ear. I'm looking forward to it but it's probably gonna be next year. This year daughters wedding took priority:)

Next time I kill an animal with a rifle....

by bob, Tuesday, October 08, 2013, 00:17 (4008 days ago) @ rob

shot placement is key; shot game control at the penitentiary one year, used a .222Rem with 50gr Nosler Zipedos over 4198. Head shot dropped in place.

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