Paging fatboy! How are your experiments....

by Glen, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 12:04 (4049 days ago)

...with your .30-30 Ackley Improved going? Do you know what size throat Rob cut in that one? You see I have this bullet mould.....

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(147 grain GC-HP)

Paging fatboy! How are your experiments....

by bob, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 18:09 (4049 days ago) @ Glen

have only tried a half dozen, or more, jacketed slugs, have some cast I bought last winter but I got lazy this summer and rode my bike instead of shooting. DANG! That is a wicked looking slug! Best jacketed loads have been with 3031 and the new LeveRevolution, what would you suggest for cast?

3031 should be just fine. (nm)

by Glen, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 18:46 (4049 days ago) @ bob

nm

to answer your question

by bob, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 21:52 (4048 days ago) @ Glen

I don't know anything about the throat, I do seat to max OAL as listed in several manuals and I get great groups as you know. I have to be kinda careful because of the rotary magazine, they can be finicky. I once seated a 100gr slug in the .250 out a bit much and it took a while to get things deconstipated! The 140gr Hornadies are a long slug, no lead, solid gilding metal and a rubber tip, so the boat tail really eats powder space. What is the length of that slug?

Length = .860" (nm)

by Glen, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 23:01 (4048 days ago) @ bob

nm

Length = .860" (nm)

by bob, Thursday, August 29, 2013, 00:22 (4048 days ago) @ Glen

MUCH shorter than the Hornady slug.

Paging fatboy! How are your experiments....

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 18:55 (4049 days ago) @ Glen

That is an amazing looking bullet, Glen! Is that a 'new' hollow point? I wonder if tht would feed in my .300 blk AR. I bet that would be an awesome performer at around 2000fps.

New? Not hardly!

by Glen, Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 20:04 (4049 days ago) @ Slow Hand

This is a Yankee bullet mould that dates back to the 1930s or 1940s. I suspect that it would feed OK in your AR, but I don't know how well it would shoot in the fast twist barrel (cast bullets tend to do better with slower twist rates). The faster twist can be dealt with by reducing velocity down to ~1500 fps, and a cast HP will still expand very well at these speeds, but I seriously doubt that it would cycle the action on your AR at these speeds.

New? Not hardly!

by Slow Hand ⌂ @, Indiana, Thursday, August 29, 2013, 04:50 (4048 days ago) @ Glen

Aha! The HP spud looked a little newer than the rest of the mold so I didn't know if it had been recently modified or not.

I didn't think about twist rate. I be lively new, 8.5" barrel is a 1:8 or 1:7" twist. It's set up to stabilize heavy, subsonic bullets, like 210's at 1050fps. The old, 16" barrel did fine with a cast 220gr bullet and still shot125gr TNT's pretty well. I just assembled the upper with a new shorter barrel and have put it on a pistol lower. It's legal to hunt with here in IN as a pistol, but when I get my tax stamp and turn it into an SBR, the caliber isn't legal anymore!

As to cycling, the old set up was very versatile. I had one set of ammo that was loaded with a 190-ish cast roundnose. They didn't cycle the gun and were still supersonic, so they were about worthless as far as fun shooting! Other than that load, it's shot well with everthing Ive put in it!

Good eyes!

by Glen, Thursday, August 29, 2013, 08:40 (4048 days ago) @ Slow Hand

Yes, the HP spud is in fact newer than the rest of the mould. A previous owner of this mould had ground the HP pin down so that it made a FP bullet, so I had to make a replacement spud to make HPs once again.

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