Info from CCI re .22 WRF in revolvers

by Catoosa, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 09:45 (4693 days ago)

OK, Thanks!

This is a .22 LR Ruger Single-Six that I have put a .22 Magnum cylinder into. It handles .22 WMR very well and with good accuracy, so bullet diameter should not be a problem.

Thanks for the info. I knew the old .22 WRF ammo used lead bullets, but didn't know it had a smaller bore diameter.

GSC

-----Original Message-----
From: cciexpert <cciexpert@ATK.com>
To: feegrabber <feegrabber@xxx.xxx>
Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2012 6:34 pm
Subject: RE: CCI Ammo - Ask the Expert Form


Gordon,
Most 22 WRF revolvers have undersized bores that cannot use a jacketed bullet,
this is the reason.

Hope that helps!

-----Original Message-----
From: feegrabber@xxx.xxx
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 6:26 PM
To: cciexpert
Subject: CCI Ammo - Ask the Expert Form


Just bought a box of .22 Winchester Rim Fire 45 grain hollow point ammunition to
use in my Ruger Single-Six .22 Magnum cylinder. After I got home I noticed that
"Not for use in revolvers" was printed on the box.

Question: Why not?

Thanks,
GSC

sure glad my dual cylinder 22 revolvers havent heard this

by cable, Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 11:11 (4693 days ago) @ Catoosa

my charter pathfinder, colt new frontiers [ 3 of them ], ruger single sixes, and colt mark III trooper have not heard about this! so they all shoot 22 lr , 22 mags, and 22 wrf quite well......there are individual preferences, of course, in terms of this and in terms of ammo manufacturers of course, but these poor unenlightened revolvers dont know that it wont work. this is a good reason not to let your firearms go on the internet and read about stuff.

just funning, no offense, but the real answer is just try it in your guns....your results may vary. :-)

sure glad my dual cylinder 22 revolvers havent heard this

by Catoosa, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 09:21 (4692 days ago) @ cable

Well, my old Single-Six has been around a while and is apparently pretty smart. Since the warning was printed on the ammo box I was afraid the ol' Ruger might read it and get offended or somethin'......

amazing what we can learn from the manufacturers and experts

by cable, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 10:53 (4692 days ago) @ Catoosa

:-)

The warning does not apply to your (modern) Rugers, etc...

by FOG, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:27 (4692 days ago) @ cable

The warning does not apply to your (modern) Rugers, etc. chambered in .22 WRM.

It pertains only to (obsolete) revolvers chambered for .22 WRF.

Assuming the copy is correct, this is clearly stated in the Mfg's email.

However, the apparent confusion does illustrate the importance of paying attention to caliber markings on both ammunition AND firearms.

Hope this helps. ;-)

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THIS is the type of gun the warning is about.

by FOG, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:39 (4692 days ago) @ FOG

THIS and others like it...

Colt Police Positive Target .22 WRF @ GunBroker

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Jacketed .22 WRF ammunition should NOT be used in THIS type of revolver.

Again, hope this helps. :-)

Gotcha; thought it was a rehash of the 22 / 22wmr thing

by cable, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 13:00 (4692 days ago) @ FOG

the old bore diameter thing

Info from CCI re .22 WRF in revolvers

by Catoosa, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 19:41 (4692 days ago) @ Catoosa

I noticed the warning (in VERY small print) on the SECOND box of CCI .22 WRF ammo I bought, after having shot most of the first box with very satisfactory results. It just got my curiosity up, particularly since the box of Winchester .22 WRF ammo (also with jacketed bullets)I bought at the same time said no such nonsense.

Five words on the side of the box leave a lot to be desired in the way of explanation, and much room for misinterpretation. I strongly suspect that it is just some more lawyer crap, so that if someone should stick a bullet in the bore of an old Colt like the one shown in the post above, CCI could say "We told you not to, right on the box!"

A modern conundrum: too much information and not enough information, all at the same time.

The manufacturers have to walk a pretty thin line.

by FOG, Thursday, January 19, 2012, 21:06 (4692 days ago) @ Catoosa

And make very clear, instructional statements at the same time. Overall, I think they do their best.

In the present example (.22 WRF, jacketed), they appear to be relying on users reading and heeding the caliber markings on BOTH the ammmunition AND the firearm it is to be used in. The boxes probably have "fine print" to this effect as well, but even if they don't, it's a reasonable requirement AND expectation on the part of the manufacturers.

As for shooting the ammunition in .22 WRM revolvers, I doubt the manufacturers care whether you do or not. I'm sure they know it is "safe," but even if they aren't aware of this, doing so falls outside the bounds their usual - and, again, reasonable - admonition to match the caliber marking on the ammo with that of the gun.

Note this isn't exactly a "new" problem for the manufacturers, either.

Take, for example, .357 Magnum /.38 Special / .38 Colt. The backwards-compatibility of that trio has been around for what, ever? (i.e., since at least 1935...) Yet confusion still exists there as well.

If anything is new, I would say it is the tendency of people to criticize the manufacturers over such non-issues, particularly on internet forums. It's too easy, if you ask me, yet it almost never serves any practical purpose.

A person could just as easily ask, "What is the point of shooting .22 WRF in your .22 Mag anyway?" The answer is, if you also have a .22 LR cylinder, then beyond the pedantic there isn't one.

IMO, the bottom line is this: Such things only matter to the advanced hobbyist, to whom, ironically, they shouldn't. Better to get on with it, I think, and pursue the hobby itself.

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"Better to get on with it, I think, and pursue the hobby...

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Friday, January 20, 2012, 07:58 (4691 days ago) @ FOG

itself."

Amen.

Not meant as an admonishment to anyone, of course. There is just so many fascinating bits to ferret out. The more I learn, the more I find out I don't know.

WELL SAID.

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Friday, January 20, 2012, 14:28 (4691 days ago) @ FOG

guilty as charged:-(

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