N-frame mechanics question

by brionic @, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 12:46 (4101 days ago)
edited by brionic, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 13:30

I did some routine (i.e. once every five years) internal clean and lube work on my 25-5 yesterday... Rob's FB post spurred me on.

Question: I hear a slight metallic "ping" at the end of the hammer fall. Subtle, but noticeable, and definitely did NOT make this noise prior to cleaning. In dry fire, it passes all function tests and the trigger pull feels smoother and slightly lighter.

The proof will be in live fire, but does this sound familiar? I wonder if it's the hammer block ringing against the newly cleaned channel in the side plate.

I believe it's 'normal'

by FOG, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 13:11 (4101 days ago) @ brionic

Perhaps better heard when 'clean', I'm not sure; I haven't heard an N-frame for a while.

To me, it always seemed to depend most on the stocks, with Goodyears winning The Ringing Contest.

Stainless also seemed more prone to ringing upon dry-firing, but that's probably because the blued and nickel guns were better dressed.

In K-frames, I have a well-used Model 617 that 'rings' when wearing Hogues but not with walnut.

FWIW, the 'flattest' sounding little snappers in the modern S&W lineup are probably the alloy J-frames; I don't think I ever heard one 'ring'.

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25-5 a MIM gun?

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 13:40 (4101 days ago) @ brionic

I have a 66-7 (IIRC it is a dash 7) that rings like that. I have a solution, don't dry fire it... ;-)

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Sincerely,

Hobie

All forged; no MIM. '86 or '87 gun, I think.

by brionic @, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 14:14 (4101 days ago) @ Hobie

..

I don't think it matters much

by FOG, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 14:23 (4101 days ago) @ brionic

Unless you count ♪ Sharps 'n' Flats ♪.

:-D

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Must be fitting as my 66 is the only what makes

by Hobie ⌂ @, Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 15:11 (4101 days ago) @ FOG

that tinkling sound so much, but ring it does.

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Sincerely,

Hobie

Other 'Ringers'

by FOG, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 14:39 (4101 days ago) @ brionic

That reminds me: I told friend of mine about this phenomenon a long time ago.

Since she is decidedly a non-gun person, it really didn't impress her much.

In any case, I thought then − and still do now, to some extent − that it is more commonly found in 'new' guns, whether stainless or carbon steel.

The example I had in mind back then were 'newer' 1911s; I noticed their dust covers would 'ring' slightly when handling the frames during cleaning.
OTOH, I have since heard the same thing from my Series 70s, so maybe it's me who's getting 'old'... [image]

Ya think? :-D

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I'm looking foward to the definitive answer on this one.

by Murphy @, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 15:08 (4101 days ago) @ brionic

I've got em' that ring, and them that don't. Never have understood why that is. But, it hasn't affected their function or accuracy.

Murphy

The wait is over: *Philadelphia*

by FOG, Monday, July 08, 2013, 06:37 (4101 days ago) @ Murphy

Put another way, 'A sight you're not likely to see again anytime soon.' :eyepopping:

SOURCE: National Science Foundation
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Had a 6 inch 629-5 that did that. Shot Well.

by MR, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 20:52 (4101 days ago) @ brionic

Wish I hadn't sold it.

Some do some don't

by rob L @, Monday, July 08, 2013, 13:25 (4100 days ago) @ brionic

.;-)

Yep. Noted it but can't recall which of mine do and...

by Hoot @, Diversityville, Liberal-sota, Wednesday, July 10, 2013, 08:17 (4098 days ago) @ rob L

which don't.

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