First shot fired. Second shot jammed. Fixed jam. Next shot fired. Next shot jammed. Fixed jam so on and so forth. The last shot fired LOL after I put it back in the chamber. Second mag of ball all fired ok
I was flabbergasted. The casings had crud consisting of lint turned into dirt. The gun was dry and gritty. The load was a mix of 102 grain Golden Saber and ball
After I cleaned it all up including both magazines I ran three more mags of ball and ball is all I have in the mags now. Need to try HP's again before I trust them.
Lesson learned. Nothing wrong with the gun. All me and my maintenance. First auto I ever packed in a pocket regularly. Keep the gun, ammo and magazines free of pocket lint and dung. Cycle out the ammo in the magazines. It is unbelievable how much stuff sticks to these guns/clips when in a pocket.
I'd carry my 442 but that dang little LCP fits so good in a pocket. But I'm leaning back to the Smith and the LCP for backup when needed
Check your LCP guys.
Bob
That reminds me: I once had a Seecamp...
by FOG, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 07:32 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
Once.
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eye opening! what kind of holster do you carry it in?
by stonewalrus, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 08:23 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
Nm
Did a function test of my LCP
by Otony, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 09:07 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
Bob,
I carry my Kel-Tec P32 in a galco horsehide pocket holster. It stays a bit cleaner in that holster than the Blackhawk nylon holster I used before, though I have no idea why. The horsehide holster has an open bottom, unlike the nylon one, that might be part of the reason.
In either holster, my practice is to remove the gun on a weekly basis, and use compressed air (from a can or in the shop) to blast the crud free. Mostly I see lint. I always remove the magazine, swap the rounds out, and blow it clean as well. Finally, I blast the holster innards to boot.
Seems like pocket carry is very subject to this issue, so I may swap back out to the pocket clip Kel-Tec makes for my pistol, but frankly it seems a bit spooky to carry that way. Might try one of the kydex trigger guard covers that are attached to a loop of para cord?
Otony
good ideas - I'm going to start doing that with mine
by stonewalrus, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 09:46 (4162 days ago) @ Otony
Nm
Worse yet....
by John K., Saturday, July 06, 2013, 09:23 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
Purse carry. I have seen guns that were completely locked up from being agitated in the bottom of a woman's purse.
Remember well one Charter Arms Undercover 38sp snub; cylinder wouldn't open or turn. Turned out it had a vitamin tablet wedged in the barrel & cylinder throat.
Did a function test of my LCP
by uncowboy, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 09:46 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
I have a friend ,Yah a Friend that's it . He pockets carries a auto in a pocket holster. Weekly he just uses a dry brush and brushes the gun down . No problems with that little bit of work. Gun always works fine. J.Michael
Keep some cleaning supplies in the bathroom.
by cas, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 11:09 (4162 days ago) @ uncowboy
90% of the times I've cleaned my LCP was sitting on the "throne". (a good use of otherwise wasted time, I'm there, the guns there…)
While I'm good about keeping the gun clean, the spare magazine is what I always forget. Last time I unloaded it, one round came out, followed by the rest falling out. The follower was stuck at the bottom due to pocket lint and junk.
That raises a question...
by FOG, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 04:17 (4162 days ago) @ cas
Where *DOES* one carry that spare mag?
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A Pocket holster helps a lot but as stated regular
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 11:20 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
maintenance is essential. I try and shoot my carry ammo through my guns every month clean the guns and oil them up. and do a quick function check every week.
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Of the Troops & For the Troops
Reminds me of a story.....
by Glen, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 12:10 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
I was teaching the NRA's Women & Guns course about 20 years ago. Contrary to class rules, one middle-aged (and handicapped) woman brought her concealed carry handgun into the classroom (loaded, we had a rule of no live ammo in the classroom). It was an imported .38 snub that her late husband had bought for her many years before. You've all heard the story before -- he took her out and taught her how to shoot it, she put a box of wadcutters through it, then loaded it with HP ammo and put it in her purse. It had been there fore at least 10 years (maybe 15). When she pulled it out in the classroom, the ammo was severely corroded (cases would have ruptured if fired), it took me 2-3 minutes to get it unloaded since they were rusted to the cylinder, and the barrel was almost completely plugged with lint, lipstick, and various substances of unknown origin. If she had pulled the trigger, a bullet would have never made it out of that barrel!
I took this as a "target of opportunity" and segued over to the Maintenance and Cleaning portion of the class.....
I must admit
by Bob Hatfield , Saturday, July 06, 2013, 18:17 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
I carry it loose in the pocket by itself. I like the 7 pocket hiker pants from Cabelas. They have a small pocket over the regular pocket that prevents printing. No holster is probably what I should get. I do have an uncle mikes pocket holster for a J-frame that I use sometimes. It looks like I should get a quality pocket holster for this thing and carry it right.
Bob
Bob, e-mail me your address.
by Rob Leahy , Prescott, Arizona, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 19:09 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
Pocket carry (In a pocket holster)is a great way to carry a second gun.
rob at simplyrugged dot com
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Of the Troops & For the Troops
I must admit
by Slow Hand , Indiana, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 08:16 (4161 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
Always use a pocket holster!! I carried my kel tec in a Don Hume holster. It worked very well and was relatively cheap. I now carry my 442 in a home made copy of the Don Hume style. Nothing else is allowed in that pocket, ever!!
Definitely clean and check once a week or more depending on how often you carry it. Nothing wrong with a good semi auto, but I still prefer my 442 after going through several pocket autos.
Pocket carry....
by Byron, Saturday, July 06, 2013, 18:28 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
NO BUENO!!!!!
WRONG FOR A HUNDRED REASONS!!!
Byron
What next?
by FOG, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 04:13 (4162 days ago) @ Byron
Appendix Carry?
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Pocket carry....
by Bob Hatfield , Sunday, July 07, 2013, 05:45 (4162 days ago) @ Byron
I need to rethink pocket carry without a holster. Hard to access while in the car (carjacker). Plus the laws of probability state that without something covering the trigger (pocket holster) something or someone (me) will cause the gun to discharge.
So I'll see about getting a proper holster pocket and belt.
Bob
the holster also keeps it oriented in the pocket
by stonewalrus, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 07:30 (4161 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
There was a sheriff here in TN who shot himself with a baby Glock - had his keys in the same pocket and set it off when the keys got in the trigger guard.
FIFY
by FOG, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 04:40 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
*CHUCK* your LCP guys...
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Did a function test of my LCP
by sjcollins , SW Missouri, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 05:43 (4162 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
If I pocket carry, it's only a j-frame Smith, using one Simply Rugged pocket holster. Having a gun floating around loose in your pocket is never a good thing.
Carrying a pocket knife all my life taught me about lint.
by Murphy , Sunday, July 07, 2013, 11:10 (4161 days ago) @ Bob Hatfield
First, I can rust a blued gun in short order carried next to my body.
Carbon steel pocket knives suffer even worse. There isn't a lot of material in a pocket when you think about it. And, it lay's about as close to your bare skin as it's going to get.
I checked my Keltec daily for the longest and made sure to keep it clean. I got comfy with it after a few months and didn't check it for several weeks. I discovered pretty much what everyone does after those few weeks, not good.
I field strip and clean mine once a week, whether it needs it or not. It's what we don't see that can get a man in trouble. I use my air compressor to blow the internals clean, then it gets doused with Rig or Shooter's Choice and blown out again. Swab the barrel, lightly lube the rails and spray the recoil spring down and blow it clean also. Some of the early Keltec's, had issues with the trigger return spring breaking. My money is on rust having killed the spring, literally. The magazine gets the same treatment monthly.
Works for me.
Murphy
Fresh from the watchpocket
by FOG, Sunday, July 07, 2013, 17:11 (4161 days ago) @ Murphy
Must be all that Clean Living.
Spyderco 'Kiwi' (C75P, Discontinued)
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