The Munchkin Rifle

by stonewalrus, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:32 (4235 days ago)

I've now got my barrel for lopping off for the old Remington 510 22 bolt action I'm working on for my near 6 year old son. I didn't want to whack on the original so I got another stock and barrel. Problem is the "new" barrel has no sights - not even screw holes or dovetail cut for the rear - I'd have to re-do the front anyway. Now I have a clean slate for sights - looking for open sights. Any suggestions?

Suggestion.... Buy A Chipmunk?

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:38 (4235 days ago) @ stonewalrus

:-D

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I NEEDED a project - don't like the bolt cocking knob either

by stonewalrus, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:52 (4235 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

Nm

THAt is exactly why I like them. the little guys can't use

by Rob Leahy ⌂ @, Prescott, Arizona, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:57 (4235 days ago) @ stonewalrus

it without their folk's help. You help them shoot...as they get more practiced and grow stronger, they can cock it themselves.

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That'd be fine for The Chip

by FOG, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:53 (4235 days ago) @ Rob Leahy

Not so much The Munk. :-D

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Second the striker cocking; tho' the Savage 'kids gun..

by John Meeker, Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 11:03 (4235 days ago) @ FOG

is really cool, for a big kid. Nice peeps -- needs bigger rear opening for older eyes -- and has an Accu-trigger style set up. Been looking for very light, .22CBLong gun to use for 'household varmints' and river bottom wandering with Martha and. Use the Model 63, too, but my vision isn't up to 'minute of a critter's eyeball' at further distances. Also, rifle CB is quieter. Can rust-proof paint it. too. ;~`)

BTE, the Savage is 'bolt cocked'. not striker pulled.

by John Meeker @, West End of Lake Erie, Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 12:19 (4235 days ago) @ John Meeker

but most of you prolly knew that.

The Munchkin Rifle

by FOG, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:46 (4235 days ago) @ stonewalrus

This might be adaptable without having to resort to a machinist:

WEST ONE PRODUCTS LLC - RUGER® 10/22® M1 CARBINE-STYLE SIGHT SET @ Brownells

"Steel sight set replaces the factory sights on a standard 10/22® barrel..."

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HTH :-)

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Another possibility

by FOG, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:52 (4235 days ago) @ FOG
edited by FOG, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 18:57

These would probably stay put on a .22 if you attached them with Elmer's Glue. :eyepopping:

MUZZLE•BRITE™ XTREME UNIVERSAL SERIES @ TRU-GLO.com

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Looks like enough elevation adjustment, too. :-D

HTH :-)

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Another possibility

by Catoosa, Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 09:32 (4235 days ago) @ FOG

Properly prep the metal and put those on with J-B Weld and they will NEVER come off. I have mounted similar sights on a very light 12 gauge with J-B and they are still there after enough heavy loads to addle my already loose brain.

MidwayUSA ▶ Gunsmithing & Gun Parts ▶ Universal Gun Parts...

by FOG, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 19:12 (4235 days ago) @ stonewalrus

rear sight height relative to front

by stonewalrus, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 20:11 (4235 days ago) @ FOG

No expert here - should they basically be the same height or front sight a bit lower?

Not expert, either, but a .22 has negligible recoil

by FOG, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 23:28 (4235 days ago) @ stonewalrus
edited by FOG, Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 23:36

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So I tried thinking it through, and this is what I came up with.

For simplicity, let's assume your rifle has no recoil.

If the line of sight was parallel to the bore, just offset above it, like so:


Line Of Sight ---------> RS ---------> FS
..........................................................} 'Offset'
Bore ============================


Then, as soon as it leaves the muzzle, the bullet would start dropping even further below the line of sight.

To correct for this, we need to elevate the bore (i.e., tilt the muzzle end upward toward the front sight).

Alternatively, we need to shorten the front sight (FS).

Assuming this 'analysis' is correct, that means the front sight should be (slightly) lower on a 'recoiless rifle' than the rear sight (RS).

If it is incorrect, let's just say I tried. :-D


HTH :-)

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Brownells Sight Height Calculator

by FOG, Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 00:03 (4235 days ago) @ stonewalrus
edited by FOG, Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 00:06

I looked some more, and according to Brownells, "Proper sight height is not difficult. Just remember that the goal is to make the front and rear sights the same height above the center of the barrel..."

If you choose one or the other (front sight or rear), and if you know its height from either spec or direct measurement, their free online calculator might come in handy: Brownells Sight Height Calculator

HTH :-)

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