Old and new powder differences

by woody, Tuesday, April 02, 2013, 17:14 (4198 days ago)

I have been loading cast bullets in several rifles lately. Mainly 30-30 and 22 hornet. I have an older lyman cast manual and another lyman loading manual. Itnis the best source of cast data. Just a quick question. How does older reloading data compare to modern? Powder charges,powder burning rates etc. I know this has been asked and talked about quite a bit but just want to ask. Mainly looking at 4227,2400,4198,748. Etc. Thanks.

Old and new powder differences

by SIXGUNNER, Tuesday, April 02, 2013, 17:42 (4198 days ago) @ woody

YOU NEED A NEW CAST BULLET MANUAL

Yes I do....

by woody, Tuesday, April 02, 2013, 19:55 (4198 days ago) @ SIXGUNNER

It is older than me!!!! A lot of the powders I have never heard of. But I was going to stick to the ones I like to use anyways. 4227 and 2400 for the hornet and 748 and 4198 for the 30-30 and they are listed. For most my cast handgun loads I use your data.

Another problem I have now is I'm getting low on standard LP primers and wanted to load up a bunch of mid range cast 41's for the Bisley I just picked up. I have several thousand LP mag primers though.

Old and new powder differences

by Charles, Wednesday, April 03, 2013, 10:08 (4197 days ago) @ woody

I have most every loading manual from before WWII to the present, that deals with cast bullet data.

With the generational spread, I feel that testing protocols, equipment and testing goals cause more variance in data that difference in powders. I am very cautious with data from any source and vintage. I consider all loading books of whatever vintage to be valuable sources of information, but realize the limitations.

Cast bullets in rifles in general work at lower pressures and any slight change is powders are not likely to get a fellow into pressure problems. I assume you would use starting loads and go up.

In rifle cast bullet loads, 4227 and 2400 are very good and have similar (not same) burning rates, but difference in bulk. I use them both with 2400 getting the nod as I also use it in magnum handgun loads.

As a rule of thumb, I used 2400, 4227 and 4759 for loads up to about 1.8K fps. Above that I use a slower medium burning powder such as 3031, 4895 and the like.

Thanks.

by woody, Wednesday, April 03, 2013, 11:49 (4197 days ago) @ Charles

Thanks Charles.

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