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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of this thing I saw in a Dixie catalog. Funny that they still list them!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8501/category/321/category_chain/312,318,321/product_name/PH0541+POWDER+TESTER">https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/8501/category/321/category_...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2024 23:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Slow Hand</dc:creator>
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<title>Very Interesting.  (nt) (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2024 03:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>JimT</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a guy that made a tester and recorded relative numbers for primer strength.  I revisit the article occasionally;</p>
<p><a href="https://castingstuff.com/primer_testing_reference.htm">https://castingstuff.com/primer_testing_reference.htm</a></p>
<p>From the pic, it looks like his tester used a single shot 22lr rifle receiver to ignite the primer.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2024 01:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>JohnKDM</dc:creator>
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<title>I ran across a deal on Small Pistol Primers ....</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were a little less than $60 a thousand which these days is a pretty good deal.  They were made in Argentina but I decided to take a chance on them.  After getting them I figured it would be a good idea to get some kind of comparison to US-made primers so I decided to test them against Federal Small Magnum Pistol primers.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815163566cf3f53209e8.jpg" alt="[image]" width="785" height="372" /></p>
<p>My test was to fire loads with no powder and see how the primers performed. I decided to use the Saeco 158 gr. SWC and a .375&quot; ball.  The SWC would be loaded with no crimp and with a crimp.  I set up 8 sections of cardboard as a backstop.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815200666cf40264c00c.jpg" alt="[image]" width="438" height="743" /></p>
<p>The test would be fired with my S&amp;W Model 340 that has a 1.75&quot; barrel.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815205466cf40564af12.jpg" alt="[image]" width="622" height="411" /></p>
<p>Measurements would be with my Browne and Sharp calipers.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815220666cf409ec227a.jpg" alt="[image]" width="701" height="280" /></p>
<p>I loaded the Argentine primed, uncrimped load and from a distance of about 6&quot; to the cardboard I pulled the trigger, resulting in a loud POP but nothing exiting the barrel.  Then I measured where the bullet stopped in the bore.  I apologize for the unfocused photo.  I did not pay attention to the camera in my haste.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815245066cf4142844e7.jpg" alt="[image]" width="776" height="378" /></p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815251366cf415935e29.jpg" alt="[image]" width="628" height="419" /></p>
<p>1.75&quot; minus .78 equals .97&quot; down the bore.</p>
<p>I shoved the bullet out of the bore with a brass rod.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815270166cf41c5a3670.jpg" alt="[image]" width="166" height="216" /></p>
<p>Next I loaded the crimped round.  When I pulled the trigger all I got was the CLICK of the hammer dropping.  I pulled the cartridge and found the bullet still crimped in place.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815281866cf421265fa6.jpg" alt="[image]" width="254" height="391" /></p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815283266cf42206bc02.jpg" alt="[image]" width="298" height="339" /></p>
<p>Pulling the bullet showed the primer had fired.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815290266cf423ea47da.jpg" alt="[image]" width="237" height="262" /></p>
<p>I did this test years ago in my Ruger single action .357 using the Keith SWC and Small Rifle primer.  It broke the crimp and pushed the bullet about a half inch into the bore.</p>
<p>Next I loaded the round ball load and about 6&quot; from the cardboard I pulled the trigger.  At the shot the ball hit the cardboard and bounced back onto the floor.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815313866cf42da5c280.jpg" alt="[image]" width="221" height="267" /></p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815315766cf42edbb789.jpg" alt="[image]" width="191" height="199" /></p>
<p>The cardboard had a small dent.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815322566cf4309310af.jpg" alt="[image]" width="735" height="374" /></p>
<p>I then took the loads with the Federal Small Magnum pistol primers and tried them.  The first was the 158 gr. Saeco SWC uncrimped.  It popped the bullet down the bore.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815345166cf439b7c737.jpg" alt="[image]" width="610" height="461" /></p>
<p>1.75&quot; minus 1.02&quot; equals .73&quot;</p>
<p>After getting the bullet out of the barrel I tried the crimped bullet load and had the same results as the first. The bullet did not move.  Then I loaded the .375&quot; round ball load.  At the shot nothing came out of the barrel. I opened the cylinder and found the ball in the end of the chamber.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815380166cf44595773b.jpg" alt="[image]" width="825" height="464" /></p>
<p>To make sure I fired on more. This one popped the ball just past the forcing cone.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815391566cf44a3eaeff.jpg" alt="[image]" width="584" height="459" /></p>
<p>To keep things equal I fired one more ball load using the Argentine primers.  This load popped the ball almost to the end of the bore.</p>
<p><img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/uploaded/2024082815402766cf44ebae919.jpg" alt="[image]" width="433" height="453" /></p>
<p>So the Argentine primers seem to have good power.  I am not loading hot loads with them so it probably doesn't matter, but it was interesting to do.</p>
<p>Chronographing would tell more but for my purposes this was enough.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>JimT</dc:creator>
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